Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Incorrect. We have 12,500 pilots. Divide 12,500 by your claim of 2 billion per year equals $160,000. Our aveage pay is NOT $160,000 per year. Thus your figure of 2 billion per year for pay restoration is wrong. The real number is an additional 750 million...as I have previously posted.
Carl, let me help out a bit. Considering that about 10,000 of our pilots are at or near 12th year pay, and the 12th year DC-9 F/O rate is $103, I'd say your numbers are off. Since roughly 50% are F/Os and 50% are Captains, let's use the B747 F/O rate of $143/hr as the "average" rate for these 10,000 guys. For the other 2500, we can use B 767 F/O 3rd year rate of $100.
According to ALPA the "average" pilot last year was paid 82 hr/month on average. So, the real math is closer to:
Top 10k pilots: 10,000 x 143 x 82 x 12 = $1.407B
Bottom 2.5k pilots: 2500 x 100 x 82 x 12 = $0.246B
Total = $1.65B for pay alone. Of course, unless you plan to cut the DC, you get an additional 14% along with that for all pilots by the contract amendable date. That's another $230m, so now we're at 1.88B.
Oh, and I forgot two more 4% raises. Add in another $15m, and we're at $2.03B
for pay (and DC) alone. And since according to DAL88, I think he said it takes something like a 73% raise to achieve full restoration, we're looking at rough $1.5B
or twice as much as you claim.
I hope DPA's mathematician has better math skills than its biggest forum supporter.
