Originally Posted by
capncrunch
That is what I don't get.
Why are people like ACL65, Alfaromeo, sailingfun, slowplay, Pineapple guy, etc fighting so hard to lower expectations? There is no real incentive to tell the rest of us that "little bites" is the way to success.
When a guy comes on here and fights for restoration, I understand. They want the best they can get. When a guy comes on here and tells us a small percentage is plenty, I begin to wonder.
What is ones motivations to shoot low and try and lower everyone elses expectation? Suspect at best.
I have been on this board almost since it's inception and over that time I gained a lot of respect for the folks on here. Unfortunately, when I see someone tow a line and argue the unarguable, I lose respect.
This thread has certainly shown who are real Delta pilots and who are management pilots.
I have given up. Those on here that lower expectations are the same folks on the inside of ALPA. It's clear to me that no matter how much we argue, they will stay the course.
The only hope I have at this point is well beyond contract 2012. It's clear where where the ALPA folks are taking that ball. The hope lies in the reality that if they choose to "take a small bite", it will actually prove to those on the fence that ALPA has run it's course and is done.
That is the best I can hope for judging from the comments of those on the inside.
No one is trying to lower expectations. I think I was clear in saying that there are economic conditions where C2K rates would be woefully low. I will try to demonstrate my main point by asking you a question. What if I set my bottom line contract at $5,000 per hour for DC-9 B and then appropriate changes up the line. I claim that anything less would be absolute capitulation. What would your response be to me? Justify your answer.