Originally Posted by
tsquare
IF you are going to go down this road, the contract needs to be modified to say that any flying with pilots on furlough is done at straight pay. Other than that, you cannot tell a senior guy to not exercise his contractual right. If there is no premium pay, there might be a point to do this.. otherwise... uh.. no.
Also note, I am very junior in my category, so I would be the beneficiary of premium pay while being junior manned...
Fire away.
I flew with guys at Coex that had been furloughed from CAL. They'd tell me, on multiple occasions, that even after informing the Captain they were about to be furloughed the Captain would show them their schedule for the month and brag about all of the time they picked up- all at straight pay. I don't know but I thought I read on here about CAL Captains picking up trips as FOs, not sure if true and not sure if it was while pilots were furloughed.
Now I know of our history with the WS's and greedslips (as I read in the WSJ in the late 90s) and the lawsuits and all concerning internet posters. But imho, the first goal is to attack outsourced flying during involuntary furloughs and I'd like to see the contract say straight pay for premium flying while pilots are on involuntary furlough and premium for junior manning.
btw non-DAL folks, premium pay = double pay for all intents and purposes.
Originally Posted by
tsquare
At DAL, the company will junior man the trips for premium pay. The trips WILL get covered. So you are asking a senior pilot to forego his contractual rights to premium pay and watch that same premium pay go to a junior pilot.
First, I disagree with the trips WILL be covered, in JFK I watched many days where flights were canceled because crews didn't commute in.
To your point, in the case of junior manning why not have a senior pilot replace the junior pilot via GS? I don't have a problem with that as I see it was an opportunity to cause an even larger 'furlough penalty' as they're paid more. I'd prefer if pilots put in GSWC (say 4x pay if the stars align) and really cause a penalty. Not to mention getting to the junior manning point would mean reserve coverage was already burned to the ground.
What I have a problem with is WS or straight pay pick ups while pilots are on furlough. So you have pilots building their lines to 99 hours a month, showing it to pilots on furlough notice, and thereby causing the reserve coverage to remain healthy. That I have a problem with.
It's tantamount T to being in a 4 man crew on the ER and having the other senior A brag about all of the WS's he's gotten while you're getting bumped off and coming back to the 88 with ME. If I'm here. Now imagine if I'm not here? You're life will be empty.