No offense Sir, but you are new to this. You (Colgan) are new to the Union concept. A Union in our sense (airlines), is a group of elected pilots working FOR the pilot GROUP. Every single person who has voiced their opinion on this website is in some way justified. Granted, some of things they say may be rude, attacking, or flaming, but all the same justified. Our Union has been telling US for years that progress is being made. Six years later progress is "still being made." The pilots at 9E have every single right to be upset and frustrated and maybe more guys should step up and do more about it. We are accused of being all talk, I get that, but all the other pilot groups need to back off. You at Colgan should be showering both Pinnacle and Mesaba with support because to be honest you guys have the absolute most to gain from this. None of your posts show any support, none. I don't know your Union guys, they may be awesome! But our guys haven't proven anything to us and that is our business. If we want to vent on a silly discussion board then so be it. We don't come into your crew room and "complain" so back off. What Continental and United are doing has NOTHING to do with what Pinnacle Corp. is doing. Its not even in the same league. They have their issues and we have ours and right now our guys are getting fed up to no end. Have you been in a 9E crew room or cockpit? Morale is shot, whats left of the morale is to simply keep on trucking to put food on the table. To find out you are from Colgan and the things you are saying shows that you have no intention of backing anyone. You just want to sit and accuse having never been there. Must be easy sitting back and bashing your "brothers."