Old 12-06-2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
"What it really is", is/should be spelled out in the contract.i.e. No open flying above X amount during a furlough or a flat out ban on open time....whichever is voted in by the members.

And no, not rationalizing, as I never work any more than i have to.
Of course it should be, but it's not. So now we have to deal with the situation as best we can. Past practice at UAL was the JR manning was used for irregular operations. There was no reason to spell it out any further since we were properly staffed, and JR (and SR) manning was an occassional good deal. It wasn't until after the BK and the furloughs that UAL started using JR man for regular staffing.

As for your statement that no, you're not rationalizing; I'm not sure why you felt like you had to put yourself in front of that bullet. The contract is what it is. We understood the rule based on past practice. After BK the company changed the rules. ALPA cannot send out any message contrary to the current interpretation, however, if everyone is paying attention, then they understand the message for what it is.

Sadly, I guess everybody needs to have a picture drawn for them. (edit: this is a poor choice of words, and not what I meant to say. I could edit, but it has been quoted. )


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Last edited by Groundhog; 12-07-2010 at 09:28 AM. Reason: meant to say "some people" instead of "everybody".
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