So who's thinking that we will get full restoration plus inflation on "day one"? Certainly not me. Might not be a bad starting position. But I guess it helps to make brownie points for your argument if you mischaracterize the other side as extreme and radical.

When I throw out numbers showing what it would take for restoration in 2012, I'm just throwing that out to add perspective that I see missing from many posts, including some of yours. I think I've been pretty clear on that. What I do expect is for us to get full restoration (or close to it) over the life of our next contract. If that makes me "extreme and radical", well then so be it. Personally, I think anyone who believes airline pilots should be compensated at a level of HALF the norm that was established over decades of precedence is "extreme and radical."