Originally Posted by
DAL 88 Driver
Spoken like a budding, young politician!
Yep, that is it.
In reality DAL88, the reason it is a answer with a qualifier is because we are too far out of Section Six to make our demands either known or concrete. 20-30% would be way too low if APA and UALALPA got 20 then 20. People have been saying that for quite some time.
Originally Posted by
scambo1
ACL;
If we are limiting our discussion to payrates:
I think T is the one who started talking about time value of money with respect to pay...so you are preaching to the choir.
When you say a 20-30% bump (very matter of factly), it is an expectations management tool, just to be clear. 5,5,5,5 is fine if it is 5,5,5,5,50 just to make sure the next negotiation is in good faith.
I Agree that an agreement sooner rather than later is in our (individual and collective) best interests, but how do we re-focus the pilot group from pro-active engagement to job action prepared if the company doesn't want to recognise our (extreme and too long) good faith?
I'm kinda out of good faith personally, but I'm tryin real hard to have Christmas spirit.
Actually Scambo, It was Alfa, PG, and Slow that started the dialogue of Time-Value money, and they brought it up will over a year ago.
I think it is quite easy to refocus the group in to that sort of mentality, it is much harder to get them in to a proactive sort of mind set, and the company knows that. Much easier to keep them where they are then to get 12300+ pilots running around upset. Keep em relatively content and save yourself a lot of late nights at the labor attorney's office.
We will see if the desire by the company to have a contract on or before the amendable date hold true. If not, as I have repeatedly said, we can very easily revert to our old ways, but I personally think it serves this pilot group and this corporation to try it a different way at first.