Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

satch, youre barking up the wrong tree here (at least with the people that post on this site and I would say a good majority of the guys I encounter from day to day) in that guys aren't talking about giving up job protection or scope in exchange for pay increases. No one is! Carl, despite what he said about "suck it up" has never advocated any scope relaxation, in fact has adomantly opposed it.

So, your entire premise of taking a furlough for a good contract is a result of some incredibly deep misinterpration that you just haven't been able to let go. I'm a good bit junior to you, and I can see it! Open your eyes! All your posts have been lately revolve around that one premise when it is deeply deeply flawed.

While the topic giving up any job protections/scope comes up a lot on here NO ONE supports it- not the deep entrenched alpa guys, not the militant dpa guys, and not those that fall somewhere in between.

I've flown with one guy that has said he doesn't really care about scope and what happens with it over a period of just under 4 years here. Scope givebacks are done, job givebacks are done- I don't see ALPA supporting it anymore and obviously the DPA wouldn't either.