For all you 9E guys up in arms, where were you the last three years and what have you done? I have been at the airlines for over three years now and you have had one picketing event in three years before last friday. Do you ever wonder why your negotiations are such a failure? If you were a couple years into negotiations and nothing was coming from it, I might feel bad for you. But 5+ years and two TAs later and nothing to show for it, that is pretty poor. Blame it on whoever you want.......it is your own fault.