It really depends on what you're looking at, though. We had 100% cancellation pay in TA2 done. It's a sticking point in negotiations right now, though. However, we were still working on a 4 hour min day, which has apparently been agreed upon in the JCBA.

Because we're building on a negotiation that (so far) is nearly 6 years in the making, a Colgan negotiation that is a couple of years in the making and an XJ contract that was signed in 2004 then beat to death in bankruptcy with snapbacks coming in at the beginning of this month. Everyone keeps saying "It's a whole new ball game," but then they'll turn around and say "It's moving faster than your negotiations." If it truly IS a new game, you can't compare the two. Personally, I don't see it as much different (but then again I see it as a management stalling tactic because I've lost all confidence in said management).

I think it would be fair to say that it started with the 9E guys, then the emotions from all three carriers are getting in the way. 9E is bitter, angry and frustrated, XJ is content and going along with what their MEC says and Colgan seems to be along for the ride. It's the cultural issues between the three rearing their ugly heads.

I'm still of the opinion a "neutral" endorsement from the XJ and 9L MECs would have been sufficient. Instead we're gonna have to work through the bad blood this is causing. Some of it is the 9E group's fault, but it's starting to spiral out of control.