Old 01-03-2011 | 07:00 PM
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LocalProPilots
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Default 9E Contract UNEnforceable by ManagementDesign

OK I am sorry for the Jerry Springer Head Line but.....

It does appear that some "Tougher Management Groups" may have an effective way to all but nullify the enforcement opportunities available to a Pilot Group Afforded in the "Bargained Agreement" .

Following is my best effort to explain.
I may have misunderstood some elements and therefore PLEASE TAKE THIS AS A SPRINGBOARD WITH WHICH DISCUSSION FOR CLARIFICATION CAN OCCUR WITH ALPA LEADERSHIP. DO NOT accept an explanation from anyone other than higher ALPA reps. If you are talking to a road show guy get them to CALL an UPPER ALPA REP then and there..... be SURE that someone who KNOWS the answer explains.

What if some negotiated points result in the contract actually having ZERO Enforceability ?

What if the Grievance Process actually DIDN’T EXIST !!!

Please ask Union reps to specifically explain the following questions.

1) Does the contract have an agreement in which there is a limit to the number of grievances which will be taken to higher levels of ALPA representation?
2) Are there agreements anywhere which might have a similar limiting effect.

(If 100 valid grievances were filed and none were settled at the “Meeting with Management” level, will 100 valid grievances be taken to a system board ?...and then to arbitration ?)
3) Do finances or budget limits result in some grievances not getting pursued?

Additionally please get a CLEAR explanation of the pilot protection / Grievance Process/representation process;
Action which cause grievance
Grievance Filed
Then Meeting with Management?... Then if not resolved
Then what?
What are the steps of representation and how far will ALPA go to protect a pilot?
PLEASE get the specific written references to the process.
Also, Can ALPA simply choose to not pursue a grievance without a pilots' approval ?

With respect to ALPA “intent to do good things” this issue MUST be clarified.

Last edited by LocalProPilots; 01-04-2011 at 06:08 PM. Reason: corrected title
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