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Old 01-16-2011, 08:26 AM
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cfii2007
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If I remember correctly, an ODP is optional, either in VFR or IFR conditions, and was created for the second condition when climb gradient could not be achieved.

A SID on the other hand, requires an ATC clearance, in either VFR or IFR conditions.

I could be mistaken though....
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