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Old 01-20-2011 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(I quoted you so at least you cannot complain about that)

If I am as you say I am; engaged, it is because I work on being engaged and informed. Yes, it is work, and yes, it takes my personal time and effort. Do my concerns get more credence? No, the resolution and survey process are for that. I do get to debate the facts with some of the decision makers, and that is something anyone can do. What it takes is once again, time and effort on each pilots part, to do the research, arm themselves with the facts, and present a reasoned based case.

Trust me sometimes the facts are inconvenient, but they are the facts.

As for ALPA changing. If true lasting change is to come to ANY organization, it needs to start with the bottom and work its way up. It starts with each line pilot not being apathetic, demanding results and two way communication from their reps. It then in turn needs to come from the reps demanding that their pilots agenda be the agenda of their MEC. (Happens a lot) and then demanding that their MEC put forth their pilots demands at the National level.

Talking about this on a web board is good for the soul and takes minimal time. It is quite another to make the time commitment to stay engaged and force an issue or issues. If even 40% of this group was involved on a day in and day out bases the results would be staggering. Instead we have a lot less than that, and many wonder why their concerns are not the majority position.

*Last note. Whether or not I am dissatisfied or not is irrelevant, what is relevant is that I make sure my position is heard, and I give (most time) fact base reasoning for my position. As with everything if better facts are presented I can and will change my position.

The end goal is not my agenda that goes forward, but the agenda of the Delta Pilot's. When that happens we are successful, but for that to happen, pilots first need to be engaged.
I sent an email to Tim and my capt rep earlier today. I am holding my breath for a response. And I was very civil.....

*Bottom up change is a myth
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