may I interject as a former coex pilot? one who was so excited to get hired there in 00 but by 02 I loathed the place. I stuck around hoping for some PIC time which only took til 04. my view of the industry was so tainted that a fedex guy offered to sponsor me in 05 and I declined. so I outright quit the airlines in 05 and never regretted it but glad Delta was scrapping the bottom of the barrel in late 07 because it was the one place I'd go and I'll comeback to that in the last sentence.

anyways yes we grew while cal shrunk but I upgraded junior to my newhire seniority and never complained about 600 furloughed cal pilots. well maybe about the ones with a bad attitude but there were far more i liked than didnt and I cant say that was always true of the know it all Captain that upgraded at 6-8 months. but 8 hr uncommutable 4-days, bitter bill, no cass, all of that sucked. still worked my tail off because i guess i had something to prove to the [insert cuss word] that looked down on us.

if you want to get rid of alpa there its long overdue. you'll have a mess on your hands but you already do.

but the thing about what cal is doing with scope. its needed for so many valid reasons.

there was a tremendous amount of sins from the past and a lot of it was just plain gluttony that manifested itself with the saying "they're paying their dues." its sins committed by mainline pilots that have you stuck where you are and not upgrading or moving out. its their fault, not yours.

you dont get to vote to scope them but they can scope you and thats all you need to know next time some moronic cal guy talks trash floats the notion that you need to scope yourselves because you can tell them to reread their own section 1 and scope their...

and if they shipped 100 735s to you tomorrow its still their doing. fly them, upgrade, apply and run away to somewhere that thinks people matter.

its worth getting to a major, its so much better. its not the same and had i known what i know now i'd probably never quit. stick it out or go get pic time and apply and go.

good luck.