Originally Posted by
DAL 88 Driver
So you're in the "give up and accept our profession being worth substantially less" camp? I'd rather try and fail then to give up and fail.
Nope. I'm in the "
structure and effort we used to achieve the C2K rates we now wish to restore should be supported and encouraged" camp. ALPA got that contract through the unity and forward-looking focus of the Delta pilots. United had gotten a big-step contract just before, and ALPA pattern-bargained C2K. You like C2K. You'd like to set that as our baseline.
Me too.
This thread is about the DPA. The DPA doesn't have the unity, structure, or support to get us C2K-style gains. Their advisors and law firm are losers (PFAA, AMFA, etc). Their unity building consists largely of "ALPA sucks!".
The problem for them is for every Carl, DAL 88, etc out there - unconvinced that ALPA can unite them properly into a rocking contract - there are 5 guys like me that think the "unifying" message of DPA rings dangerously hollow. 10,000+ non-card-submitting pilots are shouting. Can you hear their vote?
Originally Posted by
DAL 88 Driver
But you seem to be saying that we should just resign our selves to "grabbing what we can" and forget about ever getting back to where we need to be.
My apologies. My message could have been clearer. I have never stated that we should "...forget about ever getting back to where we need to be." Ever. If I've given you that impression, please accept this as an unambiguous clarification: I want BETTER Scope than we had pre-C2K, and I want MORE pay and better work rules than C2K. Now that we've gotten
gains during the second half of the decade while our peers were failing to get anything, it's time to take advantage of our momentum.
In context: DPA can't do that. ALPA's track record proves they can.