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Old 02-01-2011 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
But rather than focusing on the current economics of the smaller RJ's, I think it is warranted to focus instead on the virtually uninterrupted increase in larger RJ outsourcing over several contracts at almost every major airline, most of which are ALPA.
I tend to focus on the total RJ ASMs vs the total mainline ASMs (flown by Delta pilots).

RJs - down 2.7%
Mainline - up 2.7%

The "mainline" trend is what matters to me. That's what I fly. I'd like to have all of that flying, but at select points in our history, management was able to wrest chunks of that away.

Originally Posted by gloopy
In fact, the better Section 1's out there among majors are from the in house unions of Southwest and American and pre-ALPA CAL.
And as a result, their trend is....

Originally Posted by gloopy
That is part of it, but it would be nice if ALPA National and DALPA in it's entirety would agressively start admitting the mistakes of the past and sharing with us the plans to fix those problems in the future.
Have you been to an LEC meeting in the last year? Seriously, the two I've attended, and the NRT base visit by Lee Moak did both of the actions you call for here.

During his, Lee used a slide of a train off the tracks when he covered the "mistakes" topic, and over half of his presentation was built around the theme (with examples) of grabbing every opportunity to improve Scope and the rest of our contract.

Have your reps indicated they are uninterested in improving Scope?

Originally Posted by gloopy
Instead of that, the preferred methods are to completely ignore it if possible and barely mention it only when they absolutely have to.
Incorrect.

Originally Posted by gloopy
In addition to that, a significant portion of that share of barely mentioning it merely proclaims the success of the current Section 1 on two counts: a.) it could be worse and b.) 50 seat RJ's are being parked so all is well.
You forgot the trend...

Originally Posted by gloopy
That bell rings hollower every time its rung.
Sometimes it rings, and you aren't listening.
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