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Old 02-01-2011 | 04:09 PM
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johnso29
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Originally Posted by gloopy
The trend of 3% going in favor of mainline is because of 50 seaters, of wich the company could fly a billion of if they wanted to, being parked merely because the company chooses to park them because of their economics. They are not 50 seaters migrating from the outsource providers to mainline, they are 50 seaters being parked because they don't work well in the network anymore. If an outsource provider was once allowed to fly 707's for DL they would have been parked years ago regardless. That "trend" is irrelevant because what is causing that trend is irrelevant. Lots of smaller RJ's are being parked because they are not economical for anyone to fly them, but larger RJ's are still being ordered and CPA's funding direct fare trashing and CBA eroding competitors are still being inked. I find no solace in that.

AA's trend is very few 70 seaters and no 76 seaters. CAL is no jet over 50 (post merger battle in progress). SWA is no RJ's by pilot scope and corporate mission. UAL trend is unlimited 70's but no 76's (I believe) and torch the shareholders to the ground rhetoric that may just be an empty table opener, but at least they are bringing it up loud and proud, for now.

I will take your word for that you hear various reps saying to you. I have heard very, very, very little WRT scope from leaders other than how great it is that RJ's are being parked (objection: irrelevant, see above). I would like to hear a loud and clear focus on that and the silence is deafening. Maybe someone says something at a meeting here or there. But even if so, that is not enough. But in any case I am far more worried about C12K than I am about carefuly crafted rhetoric approved by natl legal. We shall see.
We should be happy 50 seaters are being parked, because Large RJ's are limited to 255. That's a MASSIVE decrease in DCI flying as the 50 seaters continue to get parked.

In regards to CAL's scope, ask how happy CAL pilots are as they watch 737 routes be replaced by Q400's. And would you really have UNLIMITED 70 seaters in exchange for no 76 seaters? APA just lost a grievance in arbitration which allowed an additional 22 CRJ-700's to increase their total to over 40. Thats in addition to their 200+ ERJ's and 35+ ATR 72's.

It's OUR job as DAL pilots to take it back. People want to sit here and blame ALPA, but we are the ones that ratify the TA. Volunteer for P2P, chew your Reps ears off, and attend Coucil meetings. If we want action then we must take action.
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