Originally Posted by
SOTeric
That just about sums it up. The number of LAX pilots in this bid just about equals the number of CAL recalls. And yet, not ONE UA recall.
Any reason why the latest CO recall couldn't have been 50/50 CO/UA? After all, were one, big, happy merger of equals right?
Twice furloughed, ex-LAX pilot.
As was mentioned, we have no one on furlough. The last bid in September/October recalled all of our furloughed pilots.
In any event, we are still two separate operating airlines and as such any recalls would have had to look at our furloughees first until they were all recalled. Any remaining positions would then go to a UAL furloughee. There would have been no way to justify recalling 50/50 as you say given the fact that there are still two separate companies WITHOUT a combined seniority list as of yet. How would a 50/50 recall have worked anyway? What mechanism could have been used to determine that?
I understand your pain and I wish the best for all of us, UAL furloughs included. We need all of you back. It's becoming clear that the company is not going to recall you until they absolutely have to and will do all they can to make the operation work with what they have.
Case in point. The following is from the CAL Flight Operations website.
Bid Notification Posting - February 9, 2011
System Bid 12-05 is open for bidding – February 9, 2011 at 0800 CT
Close Date – February 18, 2011 at 1000 CT
Effective Date – first day of the May 2012 bid period
Overview - Bid reflects the opening of the LAX-737 base. It is anticipated
that the LAX-737 base will open with the May bid period.
This bid also replaces attrition that has occurred since the previous bid and adds positions to the GUM-737 base. It also adjusts staffing for currently projected 2011 flying requirements.
This bid also has sufficient positions to retain all pilots who have returned or are returning from furlough and/or COLA.
The results of this System Bid award will be the basis for subsequent Training Assignment Bid postings which will occur immediately following the award of this System Bid.
The contractual provision for hard period bidding restrictions will not be enforced on this System Bid.
It is anticipated that test award results will be available on eBulletin Friday February 11th, and Tuesday, February 15th.
Please refer also to
Pilot Bulletin I-11-010 as well as System Bid General Notes found on the Continental Airlines Flight Operations Web Site for additional bidding information.
Notice
the part I emphasized above. The company says this bid is to replace attrition since the previous bid. A couple of points:
1. The last system bid recalled ALL furloughed pilots.
2. Not ALL furloughed pilots are coming back (approx. 110 of the 147). That is about 35 or so pilot positions NOT filled on the last bid when all is said and done.
3. This bid notice indicates more pilots retiring than the last system bid projected. (Amazing how that works!!)
So, we had open positions still unfilled (technically filled on paper) from the recalls PLUS we had more retirements since the last bid and yet this bid is not adding any pilots when block hours are projected to be up, even if just slightly?? That's clear intent, IMHO, that the airline has no intent of adding any furloughed UAL pilots to the operation.
Anyone want to disagree with my assessment, not counting any of the crayon commentators?