It sure isn't, and I'm not talking about the DPA. I've never once been sold on the DPA... gone over it a number of times.

This is talking about the numerous quantities of pilots among our ranks (north and south) that are frankly fed up with giving input to ALPA over and over and having it shot down because of the haughty "you don't know what I know, I know better than you" attitude that permiates through the unionoid entrenched.

Of course there are far fetched ideas that those that focus on one nuance without looking at other effects that need to be shot down, however at DALPA it has typically been the "it didn't come from us, so of course it's not a good idea."

There HAS been a positive change as of late, however with TO's remarks in a meeting I was in not long ago, the old is still alive and well. That must change.