Originally Posted by
Swedish Blender
So I'll toss a grenade and run away. In the 121 world, some say it is legal to log PIC if you are the PIC typed and the sole manipulator. (What FO is PIC typed at a regional anyway?)
What about the Fed ride that captains must take. Without the blessing, can you still log it in 121?
(1) A pilot in command must—
(i) Perform the duties of a pilot in command under the supervision of a check pilot; and
(ii) In addition, if a qualifying pilot in command is completing initial or upgrade training specified in §121.424, be observed in the performance of prescribed duties by an FAA inspector during at least one flight leg which includes a takeoff and landing. During the time that a qualifying pilot in command is acquiring the operating experience in paragraphs (c)(l) (i) and (ii) of this section, a check pilot who is also serving as the pilot in command must occupy a pilot station. However, in the case of a transitioning pilot in command the check pilot serving as pilot in command may occupy the observer's seat, if the transitioning pilot has made at least two takeoffs and landings in the type airplane used, and has satisfactorily demonstrated to the check pilot that he is qualified to perform the duties of a pilot in command of that type of airplane.
(2) A second in command pilot must perform the duties of a second in command under the supervision of an appropriately qualified check pilot.
Sure you can. The 121 regs you quoted spell out the requirements to be formally assigned PIC duties in 121. That has nothing to do with the part 61 sole manipulator provision for logging PIC. To log sole-man PIC you need to be rated or qualified in the airplane...SIC type ratings count, and I also suspect that 121 SIC training would count also even if no SIC type was issued...
(i) When the pilot is the sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated, or has sport pilot privileges for that category and class of aircraft, if the aircraft class rating is appropriate;
Airline SIC training and military training are clearly recognized as being "rated" in the airplane, even if no FAA type rating is issued.
Again this is all totally academic since it would not be a good idea to log such PIC unless you have a specific reason or know a potential employer who might allow it. Actually, insurance comes to mind...if an underwriter does not specify sole-man vs. actual signed-for-the-airplane PIC I think you could safely fall back on the FAR definitions for logging time. Might be helpful in the corporate world.