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Old 04-17-2011 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
So a so-called union decides that their first official act is to try to get one of their fellow pilots fired.
Their first official act? Do you just make things up constantly?

DPA has done a number of "official acts" since their inception over a year ago. This act was simply giving evidence to management in ATL. Just like the dozens of similar acts done by DALPA all week long. But you don't count that because DALPA did it...right alfa?

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Please, Scambo, TheManager, Carl, DAL88, and the rest of the DPA crowd, please let me know your opinion of a group of Delta pilots trying to get another Delta pilot fired. Oh, and this group of Delta pilots wants to represent you.
Exactly what the DALPA cronies tried to do dozens of times when they ran to ATL management at every turn.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
The Russian Revolution was a people's revolution and their aim was to take back their lives from the privileged aristocrats. The first thing Lenin did when he took power, was to start persecuting anyone deemed counter-revolutionary, which meant anyone who criticized the new government. Now we see the DPA start the purges even before they take power.
Hilarious. Do you even realize that you've just described DALPA? They spent the entire week trying to stop DPA from even being allowed to be there. When they couldn't do that, they spent the entire week trying to silence free speech and intimidate Delta pilots from free association by taking their pictures like a scab crossing a picket line. By the way, your use of Lenin and purges only proves how lost your argument is.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Note that their lawyer is the same lawyer who represents USAPA. One of the first acts of USAPA was to close down their forum because they didn't want any dissenting voices from the party line.
You do realize that ALPA did the EXACT same thing at United by closing down their forum until further notice. Thanks for showing us the similarities between USAPA and ALPA.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Their next act was to try to get 18 of their fellow pilots arrested and jailed under the RICO act.
Evidence please? And how does one try to get someone arrested?

ALPA tried to bust their union...and lost the lawsuit to the tune of 700,000 dollars plus. To me, it's far worse for a union to try to bust a union. You obviously disagree.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
This is not the company or the government, this is the union trying prosecute their own pilots. Most recently, the USAPA President had two elected reps taken out of their meeting by the police, because they disagreed with his policies. USAPA will not publish communications from the elected reps unless they "toe the party line" and they reserve the right to edit or delete anything that the President doesn't like. ALPA's constitution guarantees each elected rep the right to communicate with his pilots.
Have you noticed that we're not advocating joining the USAPA? We're talking about the DPA.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
So, before you go signing up for DPA, maybe you should find out how they are going to deal with dissent. After the revolution are they then going to start the persecution of 'counter revolutionaries?" Is criticism of the union or its officers going to be cause for them to get you fired? How will we get rid of this group if they make dissent a firing offense?
We already know how ALPA deals with dissent. Receive your resolution, then pretend you don't exist.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
This is the most disturbing fact that I ever seen come out of this DPA. They can lie and distort about ALPA and the ALPA volunteers, I almost expect that, but how can anyone justify trying to get a fellow pilot fired because they said mean things about this so called union.
Nothing even close to the disgusting attempts to block free speech, and intimidate free association like we were scabs. Sickening behavior.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
What a complete farce. I hope the DPA fanatics can provide some excuse as to why our new "union" would try to get a fellow pilot fired. What happens in the future when you want to criticize the new czars. Is your job on the line?
ALPA is the sad farce:

1. Too weak to fight against the new FT/DT rules
2. Too weak to grieve our Section 1 violation against RAH
3. Too weak in its positions to allow free speech
4. Too weak to allow free association without treating Delta pilots like scabs
5. Too weak to fight for the 1500 hour rule
6. Strong enough to try to bust their own in-house union...but predictable enough to have lost.

Carl
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