Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
I agree 100%. Unity at the National level. Of course a prenup that protects people like Joe from guys like me who left that job for this one. If I want to fly an RJ, I bid below him, but keep a system seniority number that is higher than his. It protects his expectations, and mine. It includes ALPA DCI carriers only.
This is just one of the many key points you are glossing over. There is NO SUCH THING AS A PRE-NUP in this scenario...none! Anything you think you've agreed to can be completely undone in a follow-up lawsuit on the basis of unconscionability. If you really want to merge our seniority list with another pilot group when there has been no corporate merger, you better be OK with arbitration. And with arbitration comes the possibility of Date of Hire, Ratios, etc.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Recapturing flying is very important, but one must realize that there is strength gained by not ostracizing these pilots.
Nobody is suggesting we ostracize these pilots. I and others are only stating that they need to go through the exact same hiring process as the rest of us. No special treatment. No carve-out for hiring on with a certain regional. Why you and Joe Merchant, etal continue to describe my statements as "ostracizing" and "throwing under the bus" and "apartheid" is very puzzling. I think you know you don't have a case, so you're left with throwing around epithets.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Leverage and unity are gained by allowing them to become part of the Delta system when we are successful in our goals. It give value to the industry, profession and out union. The fact that this logic fails most people is quite telling about where we are today as a profession.
Another concept that is trotted out as fact. EXACTLY, how would we gain this leverage? How would merging these pilots on to our seniority list without there being a corporate merger stop new bottom feeders from starting up?
Carl