Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
This is just one of the many key points you are glossing over. There is NO SUCH THING AS A PRE-NUP in this scenario...none! Anything you think you've agreed to can be completely undone in a follow-up lawsuit on the basis of unconscionability. If you really want to merge our seniority list with another pilot group when there has been no corporate merger, you better be OK with arbitration. And with arbitration comes the possibility of Date of Hire, Ratios, etc.
But category-status, and pay check are also very important and have and will continue to be used in and SLI.
Nobody is suggesting we ostracize these pilots. I and others are only stating that they need to go through the exact same hiring process as the rest of us. No special treatment. No carve-out for hiring on with a certain regional. Why you and Joe Merchant, etal continue to describe my statements as "ostracizing" and "throwing under the bus" and "apartheid" is very puzzling. I think you know you don't have a case, so you're left with throwing around epithets.
We can do that if we as a group mandate it, but, where is the quid for them then? Being on probation solves many of the issues you describe.
Another concept that is trotted out as fact. EXACTLY, how would we gain this leverage? How would merging these pilots on to our seniority list without there being a corporate merger stop new bottom feeders from starting up?
Carl
1) Sunset provisions
2) Sunset allowable jets as they go away.
3) By helping pilots within your union and trade, it shows a true value of ALPA and unity in general. It shows that we as pilots in general have each others' backs. It puts words in to action, and that action kills the notion that we see pilots engaged in our trade as less than us. It sure would be an ego buster to all of us that see ourselves as better, but it is good for the profession. This unity would translate in section six rounds, and multiply as we went from contract to contract.