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Old 05-02-2011 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
The SLI would look at the needs of both parties and all the issues that people think will be a huge deal can be dealt with quite easily. Look at all the angst that everyone had over the last integration and how the bids have actually worked out. Rather than people "stealing' each other's jobs, mostly people have worked themselves into a better commute or no commute with the pain/gain from the restructuring spread throughout the list.

I came up through the military, flew as an instructor and fighters, and I saw all kinds of pilots good and less good. What you fly and where you came from are not indicative of your flying skills. Some of the best pilots I ever saw were ex WWII pilots that flew Super Cubs at the AF Academy. Rather than get caught up in stereotypes, we should examine the course that increases the power of our pilot group to negotiate better contracts. I want more money and therefore I want to find the path that gets me more money. In my opinion, we will have a difficult time raising up the mainline unless the smaller jet pilots rise up along with us. It seems easier to do if we have one pilot group and one voice.
Agreed and that is why I see Carl's statement that they have not been borne of the same fire, as ridiculous. DAL will weed out who they want, they always have.

As for the leverage. The reality is that because of the level of outsourcing that we have seen, the economics of that seat class have changed. First, we must restore the flying to the list, which will change the way the economics are determined, and though that change, allow leverage to change the compensation for that seat class as the economics improve. It is not a once contract goal. This will take a few contracts and many years. This pilot group need to be willing to do that flying at current compensation levels, which will allow it to get back on the list, and then when there or no more portfolio competition and other carrier follow suit, the economics change, allowing for the compensation to be brought up to "mainline" levels.

A difficult task, but one that we must undertake. I also agree that we need to help with DCI mergers, and as a result change the economics that leave Plan B (insourcing) the only option.
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