Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
The only thing ridiculous and petty is your constant straw man arguments. Carl NEVER SAID they weren't "borne of the same fire" or anything of the sort. The only thing Carl HAS SAID is that these pilots must go through the exact same hiring process as we all did.
You're never going to gain support for your idea of merging DCI pilots into our seniority list if you constantly lie about what people have said here.
Carl
Carl;
It simple, I used that phrase to tie your statement about allowing only pilots that have interviewed on to the list. I get confused because I could have sworn you supported the CPS flow which did just the opposite. DAL can still terminate a pilot under the flow, and an agreement with other DCI pilots would be no different because frankly, the company would not pen such an agreement.
Making sure that we act like a true association, and take care of our fellow members is what I am advocating. You want to call it an SLI, but what I am referring to is, simply doing more than we have in the past, and rallying behind the pilots from within our association, and not those who are not. Like I have also said, you could go down a SLI route, but the fact is that; 1) It is our flying, 2) we are not buying anyone, and 3) they would have no leverage, so even if you partook on that path, the tenants of the debate are totally different. I advocate more of a agreement between DCI carriers and DALPA. Like I said, trying to iron out the "how" is what people want to focus on, but in reality, they need to first focus on the "if."
If we want to recapture said flying, what does it say about us, that we would cheer fellow ALPA pilots hitting the street? To me that is in reality the root cause of many of our issues.