Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
That is true.
Until we have RJ pay scales in our PWA, that statement is pure conjecture on your part.
Correct, but many asset we current do with the 195 rate, and we can see what that has gotten us.
I see. Step 1 = Get seat economics to improve. Step 2 = ??? Leverage ??? Blah ??? something??? Step 3 = Seat economics changed.
No Carl, first step is to decide to make it a priority to, over time have all DAL coded flying flown on our list. Once you get that part taken care of, which will require probably more time that you have here, you can change the economics of said flying. You CANNOT do it while you are competing with the flying being flow off the list at a current rates.
Never happen. There is no way a pilot for Delta Air Lines should accept flying at pay rates currently being accepted at DCI. N.F.W.!!
For the pilots to decide, but isn't that statement what got us to start outsourcing in the first place? Reality is that we allowed, though outsourcing, for the economics to change. We can always wait for the C-Series to arrive, and by default the current DCI jets just wither away, and you do exactly what needed to be done. The economics of the seat class kill DCI, but language needs to be changed, so that, a RJ with a GTF does not come in and renew the whole cycle. Either way, ALPA pilots will be on the street, and we will be cheering. That does not impress me. Helping fellow ALPA aviators out should not just be desired, but expected.
Highlighted above is the gaping hole in your argument. Your naive assumption that what we do at Delta Air Lines could ever eliminate bottom feeding RJ airlines from offering bottom feeding service at bottom feeding pilot wages. And as such, your plan would fail miserably. The only thing we would get is DCI pilots merged onto our seniority list, and the same problem of being whip-sawed with new bottom feeders.
Carl, the economics will eliminate them, and like I have said, we as a union should want to help our fellow ALPA pilots out.
You are correct, it is not a one dimensional issue, and contractual changes would need to be made.
Surely you don't mean DCI mergers with mainline do you? You must mean DCI mergers to other DCI airlines...right?
Carl
I echoed what Alfa wrote; We should champion DCI carriers merging with each other. We should champion all flying be performed by our list, and we should champion taking care of fellow ALPA pilots; whatever that action may be, but sitting there and cheering their demise is not one of them.