Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Making sure that we act like a true association, and take care of our fellow members is what I am advocating.
That statement alone sounds great. Who could argue with that...right? The problem is in the details with you. How do you propose we "take care" of our fellow members? You want them merged onto our seniority list in the absence of a corporate merger. That's where you'll lose most of us.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
You want to call it an SLI, but what I am referring to is, simply doing more than we have in the past, and rallying behind the pilots from within our association, and not those who are not.
I want to call it an SLI because that is exactly what you are advocating. I know you prefer to use terms like: "rallying behind" and "taking care", etc...but you are advocating an SLI without there being a corporate merger.
To all the lurkers out there who remember how hard I've been on acl65pilot for his use of weasly political double-speak - this is exactly what I'm referring to. This is but one example.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Like I have also said, you could go down a SLI route, but the fact is that; 1) It is our flying, 2) we are not buying anyone, and 3) they would have no leverage, so even if you partook on that path, the tenants of the debate are totally different.
There is nothing about the above that is fact based. This is entirely your opinion of what would happen. But as you must know, after-the-fact lawsuits and arbitrations make any predictions impossible. Once you advocate an SLI, you must be prepared for arbitration. That is not arguable.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
I advocate more of a agreement between DCI carriers and DALPA. Like I said, trying to iron out the "how" is what people want to focus on, but in reality, they need to first focus on the "if."
You can advocate that all day long, and the DCI pilots could even agree to it in writing. But a subsequent lawsuit overturning it on the basis of unconsciounability is always available until an arbitrated ruling is issued.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
If we want to recapture said flying, what does it say about us, that we would cheer fellow ALPA pilots hitting the street?
Another lying straw man argument. Nobody has ever even hinted at cheering anyone hitting the streets. Why do you keep cheering for all of your former DCI friends to be stapled to the top of the Delta pilot acl?
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
To me that is in reality the root cause of many of our issues.
This is why you don't see this issue clearly. You are conflating stopping outsourcing with an SLI. The two have NOTHING to do with each other and would not even slow outsourcing down. Maybe you see it as some kind of atonement that needs to be pursued by major pilots for ever caving in scope in the first place, I don't know. It's just so patently ridiculous and disconnected from reality, it leaves me nearly speechless.
Carl