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Old 11-01-2018 | 09:25 AM
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Eh, the CAE announcement has been out there for sometime and according to crew availability we haven't seen any drop off in new hires.
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Old 11-02-2018 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DonConsult67
Agreed on CAE ~ odd choice for even an out-station crew base and a pretty horrible "recruiting" tool.


We have referred several pilot candidates to AW the past few years and the two presently in-training are looking at other opportunities and the couple who were good candidates we've advised to go elsewhere...because of the push to send every new hire to CAE.


A non-, or highly difficult commuting base serves no purpose in the Regional environment if you're already having trouble staffing your lines. But then again, who said Regionals operate their business model with anything but a short-sighted, selfish, shoot-ourselves-in-the-foot approach.
Its awacs typical arrogant attitude and living in the past thinking. We are are best regional. Cae or not, we will have people flooding here. With our industry leading contract we could put our biggest base at NSZP and people would still flock here. The reality is, this place is a year or two away from the UAL contract expiration date and ATW will have learned nothing from when we lost 50+ a month during AA sunset. Whether it's set to renew, extend, or expire, those clowns in appleton will say nothing and rumors will fly. Morale will tank. Everyone will wonder how much longer theyll have a job. New hires will dry up. Appleton still lives in the period of time when someone left or washed out, 5 applications were there to replace him.
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Old 11-02-2018 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Day4mx
Its awacs typical arrogant attitude and living in the past thinking. We are are best regional. Cae or not, we will have people flooding here. With our industry leading contract we could put our biggest base at NSZP and people would still flock here. The reality is, this place is a year or two away from the UAL contract expiration date and ATW will have learned nothing from when we lost 50+ a month during AA sunset. Whether it's set to renew, extend, or expire, those clowns in appleton will say nothing and rumors will fly. Morale will tank. Everyone will wonder how much longer theyll have a job. New hires will dry up. Appleton still lives in the period of time when someone left or washed out, 5 applications were there to replace him.
The United contract was signed in 2017 for 5 years with a 2 year extension option. We’re not a year or two away from going out of business.
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Old 11-02-2018 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumbletrousers
The United contract was signed in 2017 for 5 years with a 2 year extension option. We’re not a year or two away from going out of business.
Just 4-6 years.
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Old 11-02-2018 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumbletrousers
The United contract was signed in 2017 for 5 years with a 2 year extension option. We’re not a year or two away from going out of business.
I know that. But its a couple years before rumors start and morale tanks.
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Old 11-02-2018 | 01:08 PM
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Who is the “we” in this sentence?

Originally Posted by DonConsult67
We have referred several pilot candidates to AW the past few years and the two presently in-training are looking at other opportunities and the couple who were good candidates we've advised to go elsewhere...because of the push to send every new hire to CAE.
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Old 11-02-2018 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lukeh99
Who is the “we” in this sentence?
Based on the “consult” in his username I’m guessing some kind of career consultant firm.
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Old 11-02-2018 | 01:15 PM
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I think a lot of people who have been in this industry for a decade or more forget that many 23 year old CFI’s have no problem moving to a base for a new flying gig. CAE offers a low cost of living and is warm in the winter. Compare CAE with the cost of living in a hub like IAD or ORD and it’s not surprising some people view a junior CAE base as a benefit. I’m not saying everyone will but you have to keep in mind different people have different priorities.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Day4mx
I know that. But its a couple years before rumors start and morale tanks.
That’s true. Hopefully Appleton learned their lesson from that exodus.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by lukeh99
I think a lot of people who have been in this industry for a decade or more forget that many 23 year old CFI’s have no problem moving to a base for a new flying gig. CAE offers a low cost of living and is warm in the winter. Compare CAE with the cost of living in a hub like IAD or ORD and it’s not surprising some people view a junior CAE base as a benefit. I’m not saying everyone will but you have to keep in mind different people have different priorities.
Columbia is hardly cheap. Median 1 bedroom rent is $840 a month. You can live in a burb of Chicago within a half hour drive of ohare for roughly the same amount.

https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/north-chicago-il/columbia-sc/50000
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