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Originally Posted by Omnislash
(Post 3010325)
You know that the LOA affects everyone, right? Your first April bid was nullified as soon as United eliminated that flying. The LOA actually keeps pilots on property while dealing with United's reduction.
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Originally Posted by Imapylot
(Post 3011336)
Yes, I am aware it affects everyone and I didn’t need your help realizing that. My statement that you quoted stands.
Thank you for affirmation that we should all just look out for our own self interests in ****ty times. |
Originally Posted by iceman21
(Post 3011347)
You might find your statement a bit shortsighted when us junior guys are out on our asses without a job and your normal lines are 60 hours of getting "offed in the a" as you say. You won't have the junior guys to blame then.
Thank you for affirmation that we should all just look out for our own self interests in ****ty times. |
Originally Posted by iceman21
(Post 3011347)
You might find your statement a bit shortsighted when us junior guys are out on our asses without a job and your normal lines are 60 hours of getting "offed in the a" as you say. You won't have the junior guys to blame then.
Thank you for affirmation that we should all just look out for our own self interests in ****ty times. Fact: the LOA prevented furloughs. Fact: I am making less money next month with no extra days off. |
Originally Posted by iceman21
(Post 3011347)
You might find your statement a bit shortsighted when us junior guys are out on our asses without a job and your normal lines are 60 hours of getting "offed in the a" as you say. You won't have the junior guys to blame then.
Thank you for affirmation that we should all just look out for our own self interests in ****ty times. |
Originally Posted by dremaldent
(Post 3011357)
Hate to say it, but some of the senior guys don't care... Look at Commutair. They put it to a vote. Senior guys voted it down. Furloughs now
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Originally Posted by RAHkid94
(Post 3011371)
You guys got cut a low 5 figure bonus check recently right? If anything it should be easier for a new person to survive on zero for a few months than senior people surviving on 60. If this goes on much longer we’re all screwed anyway.
Short term fix for a junior guy, sure, but in the long term the senior Capt who makes 60/hr more than I do shouldn't really be all that ****ed off about a 15 hour reduction per month for a few months while 3/4 of the country is out of work. Just thoughts from myself who is a little anxious I guess. [MENTION=93788]Imapylot[/MENTION] I see your point and apologize for beating the dead horse/laying a guilt trip. |
Originally Posted by RAHkid94
(Post 3011371)
You guys got cut a low 5 figure bonus check recently right? If anything it should be easier for a new person to survive on zero for a few months than senior people surviving on 60. If this goes on much longer we’re all screwed anyway.
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As a fairly junior person, I appreciate that everyone is currently making a sacrifice for my sake. Please try and remember though that losing a job has a huge financial impact on people, bonus or not, not to mention an emotional impact. Given the economy, maybe I'll be able to find a new job or maybe not. I have expenses and a family too...
Taking a paycut, is far more manageable for most of us than an altogether cessation of pay. Especially when our prospects of getting another job have fallen in a dramatic way. |
Originally Posted by Omnislash
(Post 3010312)
Here we go with your ignorance again. You pretend to think you know how things work only because you would like things to have gone a different way. In reality, you would probably complain no matter what happened.
That "POS contract" was approved overwhelmingly by the rest of the pilot group. Just because you like to talk a lot, your opinion does not matter more than the rest of ours. The contract also does not govern how representation is handled. You would know that if you would actually reach out to your reps and ask them questions, instead of firing ignorant shots from behind your keyboard. I've talked to my rep continuously over the last few weeks and it sounds like the MEC was provided a lot of information and had to make a decision with that information. That is literally what they are in their positions to do. The fact that you think that this should have gone out to vote, means that you are uninformed, and then delusional if you think that we could have conducted a vote amongst the pilot group in next to no time at all. Thanks for being a team player. All of us are in this together and you are not the only one that is going to temporarily receive less pay so that we can keep all our pilots on property. If you think you have the solutions and out of the box thinking that will solve all of our problems, why don't you actually volunteer to help the group or apply for a management position where you can actually make some change. When this is all done, I hope we all keep our jobs and this industry flourishes again. He lives for this place.Its his life, maybe the best thing that ever happened to him. You say anything negative about it and he will chop your head off. He thinks everything the co does is in our best interest. |
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