Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky (Post 3192405)

They will, by furloughing 10s of thousands more employees in addition to the Covid victims. Employees will be the first to go. Anyone who has been around long enough knows Human Resources is the most expensive aspect of airline flying. You people will never get it. Forcing Green energy with a hammer on a healthy economy and energy source that was working perfectly fine while allowing new technology to naturally develop. But instead, you have to jam it down our throats putting everyone into mysery, killing jobs, killing prosperity, demanding instant green energy. Anyone with half a brain knows it takes years for that technology to naturally come to market. But instead you send thousands of perfectly fine aircraft to the boneyard because you have been brainwashed to think you are saving the planet. Compare today's aircraft engines to those just 20 or 30 years ago. We have come a long ways without a tyrant like Biden and clan cutting off our life and blood. Your points will be moot when you are forced to deliver Prime packages in your gas guzzling Ford Sprinter van dreaming of the pilot job you voted out in 2020. Oil is less relevant? It has never been used more efficiently in history. Plus there is enough to last another 100 years or more at the current rate of consumption. Liberalism truly is a mental disease. Good luck with that career progression at ZW.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oi...Oil-At-80.html. Biden is right there to help them.

Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3192426)

Why do you have to insist on not innovating toward clean energy? Maybe if you would agree to literally any progress at all, it might not feel so aggressive.

Why can't we use clean energy for the large majority of the electric grid? We have the tech to do it, it's cost is comparable, you're just annoyed by it for some reason.

Originally Posted by boxthrower (Post 3192428)

There is no such thing as clean energy. I dare you to try and prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3192430)

Ok how about much cleanER energy, like substantially cleaner.

Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3192430)

Ok how about much cleanER energy, like substantially cleaner.

Originally Posted by Escargot (Post 3192433)

boxthrower has a valid point here. More efficient engines is a good thing, but calling electric cars, solar panels, and wind turbines "green" is a pretty big stretch. It's more reminiscent of offshoring where the nasty parts are out of sight, out of mind. If you really want green, let's get nuclear. There's a new kind of reactor that uses a solid heat sink instead of water, but obviously can't be implemented due to regs.

Originally Posted by Escargot (Post 3192423)

Gonna chime in to say retrofitting the shady eighty's with ADS-B out (see government policy & regulation) at a million smackeroos a pop may have had more to do with their retirement than guzzling gas, although I'm sure that didn't help.

Originally Posted by 3rdtimesacharm (Post 3192468)

https://news.klm.com/world-first-in-the-netherlands-by-klm-shell-and-dutch-ministry-for-infrastructure-and-water-management-first-passenger-flight-performed-with-sustainable-synthetic-kerosene/