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CassinAK 10-24-2017 08:58 PM

Arbitration
 
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“Scopes not worth the paper it’s written on”. Idiots.

Klsytakesit 10-24-2017 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2453879)
Alaskan isn’t the darling it once used to be, no doubt. With the hiring boom on the horizon, the able and the willing should jump ship. Let’s face it, VX was never a career airline. It was a slight step above a regional and far from the legacy/desirable majors. I haven’t heard of anyone choosing VX over the legacies, SWA, and FedEx/UPS. I know some of you will be butt hurt but VX boys ‘n girls should accept the fact that y’all scored big. At the end of the day, Alaskan is still a career legacy.

Career Legacy is poetic license at its finest....By definition we are a jet regional. Merging with Virgin makes us a jet national. Alaska was hardly a scheduled airline until Jet America forced their hand. To be a Legacy airline you have to have a legacy contract....which we dont have and have not had for at least 13 years....What we do have and have always had is Legacy Ego!!!!And it has assured us that we will slways trail by 20% plus the major airlines in the US....

2loud 10-24-2017 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Klsytakesit (Post 2453895)
Career Legacy is poetic license at its finest....By definition we are a jet regional. Merging with Virgin makes us a jet national. Alaska was hardly a scheduled airline until Jet America forced their hand. To be a Legacy airline you have to have a legacy contract....which we dont have and have not had for at least 13 years....What we do have and have always had is Legacy Ego!!!!And it has assured us that we will slways trail by 20% plus the major airlines in the US....

Poetic license, that’s a good one. Goes to show that one doesn’t need a 4 year college degree to write or for that matter, safely operate an airliner for a living.;) By definition, Alaskan Airways is a legacy but I like your label better. Alaskan will continue to fly the “thicker” routes for Skywest and assist with their growth plan. Go team!

Yetifan 10-25-2017 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by CassinAK (Post 2453890)
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“Scopes not worth the paper it’s written on”. Idiots.

Jesus! Alaska yes men are proving to be a special kind of stupid...

Ispeakjive 10-25-2017 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2453901)
Poetic license, that’s a good one. Goes to show that one doesn’t need a 4 year college degree to write or for that matter, safely operate an airliner for a living.;) By definition, Alaskan Airways is a legacy but I like your label better. Alaskan will continue to fly the “thicker” routes for Skywest and assist with their growth plan. Go team!

Idiot. It's not Alaskan Airlines--it's Alaska Airlines. Get the fundamentals right before you open your troll mouth.

cmrflyer 10-25-2017 03:47 AM

If winning the lottery means a $2000 a month drop in income for the year, then yes, I won the lottery.

Outdoors 10-25-2017 05:31 AM

Lagging trend
 
I found the slide of previous CBAs/contracts showing Alaska vs industry leading pay not excitable. Alaska has been 7.5% to 19.1% BELOW the industry leader with a rough calculated average of around -12%...granted that’s just rates.

Let’s calm the Ak/vx is better crap, honestly this place is more 7th best vs peers. Fighting about 7th place is as cool as crew access. Trade denied!

Gear boy has it right.

BiloxiJack 10-25-2017 05:57 AM

lottery? what contest in hell did we win? I can think of nothing positive that has occurred since we were acquired and have watched the morale of a happy group crumble into the pile of rubble that your flight attendants look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usWYn42JQBI


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2453871)
Wow! I’m no company guy but some of the remarks on here are ludicrous. How would VX guys fare better at jetBlue? Do tell. The only thing common that VX and jetBlue have are airbuses and debt. VX pilots win the lottery and now you guys are *****ing? Alaskan management may be shrewd, uncaring, a bunch of conniving rats, fill in the blank, but they are not stupid. Alaskan will not tank, at least not anytime soon.


dogpilot 10-25-2017 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 2453871)
Wow! I’m no company guy but some of the remarks on here are ludicrous. How would VX guys fare better at jetBlue? Do tell. The only thing common that VX and jetBlue have are airbuses and debt. VX pilots win the lottery and now you guys are *****ing? Alaskan management may be shrewd, uncaring, a bunch of conniving rats, fill in the blank, but they are not stupid. Alaskan will not tank, at least not anytime soon.

I am not that in the know about jetblue, but I’m fairly sure they are financially pretty sound. Alaska paid a bunch too much for virgin’s debt

plt32173 10-25-2017 07:00 AM

The 5th best lottery lol


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