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IFlyNFish 11-25-2017 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 2471920)
Fun story: I mentioned to someone how much I disliked that MOU, and I got the lecture about how that's not why trades are denied, and its really about reserve coverage, blah blah. I then wondered allowed why I was able to trade through 3 trips over a 10 hour period as long as each one was 4 hours or less, while the original trade was denied for just that reason. Huh, strange.



I hate the MOU's, but it sounds like they worked in this example?

Inadequate reserve coverage, and trips MORE than 4 hours= denied.

Inadequate reserve coverage, and trips LESS than 4 hours= MOU helped?

I hate the MOU's, should just be same day for same day= approved... or I still wish they'd say trip is denied for inadequate reserve coverage, that's the programming flaw.

SmoothLanderJ 11-25-2017 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Work2much (Post 2472185)
Anyone heard when the next vacancy bid is going to come out?

Heard it was supposed to come out last week, so you know how that goes.

miker1 11-25-2017 05:46 PM

What is MOU?

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Work2much 11-25-2017 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by miker1 (Post 2472244)
What is MOU?

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A memorandum of understanding is an agreement between two or more parties. It expresses a convergence of will between the parties, indicating an intended common line of action.

Work2much 11-25-2017 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by SmoothLanderJ (Post 2472240)
Heard it was supposed to come out last week, so you know how that goes.

That's what I heard too. Hm...Maybe they'll get around to it before too long.

WHACKMASTER 11-30-2017 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by EA CO AS (Post 2470866)
Nope, but then again, not everyone chose to pursue a career that requires that.

Everything else you listed?

This may come as quite a shock to you, but those are things that JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER CO-WORKER OF YOURS DEALS WITH.

Look, I'm not here to argue; I know pilots are damned important, and aren't easily replaced. But using that excuse as rationale to say things like "No waivers! No favors! Fly the contract!" which really means, "I'm willing to screw over my customers and co-workers so I can show management I'm ticked that I didn't get everything I wanted!" isn't a great way to exhibit the value you bring to the table.

Yeah well we as a profession have this thing called the Railway Labor Act that’s been tying our hands for decades. Ya dig?

EA CO AS 12-03-2017 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER (Post 2475296)
Yeah well we as a profession have this thing called the Railway Labor Act that’s been tying our hands for decades. Ya dig?

Erm....you may not be aware of this, but the RLA applies to every one of your co-workers who work under union contracts as well, from flight attendants, to CSAs, to Res Agents, etc.

So it's not just pilots who deal with working nights, weekends, holidays, etc.

WHACKMASTER 12-03-2017 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by EA CO AS (Post 2476793)
Erm....you may not be aware of this, but the RLA applies to every one of your co-workers who work under union contracts as well, from flight attendants, to CSAs, to Res Agents, etc.

So it's not just pilots who deal with working nights, weekends, holidays, etc.

I’m not talking about working nights, weekends, holidays, etc. I’m talking about how the RLA ties our hands with regard to contract negotiations.

Nick1984 02-01-2018 01:20 AM


Originally Posted by EA CO AS (Post 2476793)
Erm....you may not be aware of this, but the RLA applies to every one of your co-workers who work under union contracts as well, from flight attendants, to CSAs, to Res Agents, etc.

So it's not just pilots who deal with working nights, weekends, holidays, etc.



You’re a giant C**t.

Nick1984 02-01-2018 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by EA CO AS (Post 2476793)
Erm....you may not be aware of this, but the RLA applies to every one of your co-workers who work under union contracts as well, from flight attendants, to CSAs, to Res Agents, etc.

So it's not just pilots who deal with working nights, weekends, holidays, etc.

Unless you’re c-level or higher, you are delusional about how and why this company funds and invests how they do.

Just ******* off. You’re obviosuly a scheduler or some retarded management troll (but...why?).


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