So, "Hey, there will still be jobs; granted, it's likely they won't still be concentrated in the same places, so people will have to uproot their families, they'll be starting over in seniority, so they'll be taking huge paycuts, and in some cases they just won't have a job because someone else at a competitor already does what they do. But I got mine, so that's all that matters."

Right?

"So sorry to inconvenience you with a loss of seniority in order to go work for a better company with more stability and better compensation."

You have to break some eggs to make an omelette. "It's just business." Isn't that what we were told with regards to our contract? It applies to other situations as well. If a weak company can't find a way to treat its employees in a way that maintains enough morale to keep from imploding... Well, that's just business.

It stands to reason the the companies that can pay well for pilots should pay well for other workers as well. It's for this reason that every time a regional airline dies, it's a net gain for the industry and its workers.

Do you work at a significant discount? Are you able to take a day off when you need it? Are you working through the night on thanksgiving or Christmas? Can you start over without beginning again at entry level pay and vacations? Are you backstabbed by your middle management on a regular basis? Are you subject to checkrides and a medical exam every year? Give me a break...

Nope, but then again, not everyone chose to pursue a career that requires that.

Everything else you listed?

This may come as quite a shock to you, but those are things that JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER CO-WORKER OF YOURS DEALS WITH.

Look, I'm not here to argue; I know pilots are damned important, and aren't easily replaced. But using that excuse as rationale to say things like "No waivers! No favors! Fly the contract!" which really means, "I'm willing to screw over my customers and co-workers so I can show management I'm ticked that I didn't get everything I wanted!" isn't a great way to exhibit the value you bring to the table.

Yep, probably also with Emirates and some of the other 15 airlines that AK codeshares with.

The problem is we’ve tried it your way for decades and it hasn’t brought any improvement to our 92% contract. Even though we’ve helped the airline become wildly successful we’ve suffered huge paycuts (Kasher, 2005), Furloughs for profits (2009-2011), and management has used the success we’ve helped create to threaten our airline by grossly over-paying for a start up airline which not only threatens the balance sheet of our airline with debt and integration issues, but also our very careers with a potentially unfair seniority integration. So pardon me if we are done with the status quo. The status quo has gotten us nowhere and now we are going to rock the boat a little bit... maybe if the water starts to come over the side a little bit, management will be forced to build a better boat.

Incorrect. It sounds that way, but every single pilot, and every single union member in every industry should follow that advice. To do otherwise completely undermines the entire process, and in our industry it undermines the RLA and the blood which has been shed in order to achieve much of what has been gained.

It isn't "screw the company". The company already agreed to the terms. It's the company that continually violates the contract, not the other way around. Companies can also file grievances... but they never do, because the pilot group doesn't violate the contract, and if they do, it's to "help the company".

This is all union 101...

It's just business. The market always reacts. This is the market reaction to the actions that were taken. It's very similar to the shortage the regionals are feeling. When you make a job not worth having, people quit showing up to do it. When you insist on paying well below the competition, you get a product that reflects that. The best doesn't come at a discount. When you pay for a Hyundai, you don't get to drive a Porsche.

There was a plate of 10 cookies in the room. B&B took 9 of them. When I try to pick up mine, they look at you and scream "he's trying to take all of the cookies! You're not going to get one because of him!" Nope. I'm not here to subsidize my coworkers with my labor. I'd like to be paid fairly for what I do, and a company with a profit margin like ours can afford to do that.

You never answered my questions. Do YOU work at a significant discount? Will YOU work through the night on Christmas and Thanksgiving?

Also you are being very disrespectful of this community here by not identifying what type of employee you are. If you told me you are a new CSA I might understand, but I don’t think you are...

You obviously have no clue about the daily grind of a pilot. You’re drunk on Koolaid and blinded by the rosy glasses supplied by the company.
The contract is a document agreed by both sides-signed and sealed. You’re implying that “flying the contract” is a job action. Be careful what you say on here because your boss is watching. Flying the contract means abiding by the rules set forth by both sides. I can only hope the company abides the contract but we all know they don’t. The company violates multiple sections of the contract each and everyday. So you are implying that company’s actions are justified while the pilot’s actions are wreckless. Once again, you have no valid argument.