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Old 11-01-2018 | 06:15 PM
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Some of you guys crack me up. You think it's as easy as "voting in scope"?

Scope has to be negotiated. Considering how Angle Lake has traditionally viewed Scope, what are YOU willing to give up to get it? Say what you will, but they know exactly what scope is worth.
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Old 11-01-2018 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Some of you guys crack me up. You think it's as easy as "voting in scope"?

Scope has to be negotiated. Considering how Angle Lake has traditionally viewed Scope, what are YOU willing to give up to get it? Say what you will, but they know exactly what scope is worth.
Lower pay rates and worse reserve rules. That’s what scope is worth to them.
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Old 11-01-2018 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by echelon
I don't know what percentage of Alaska's flying is done by Horizon/SkyWest, but it's definitely become enough that Alaska's business model has grown to depend on it. .

About 40%.
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Old 11-12-2018 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Some of you guys crack me up. You think it's as easy as "voting in scope"?

Scope has to be negotiated. Considering how Angle Lake has traditionally viewed Scope, what are YOU willing to give up to get it? Say what you will, but they know exactly what scope is worth.
I'm willing to give up however many days of work it takes while walking a picket line to get scope. Question is, is this a pilot group that is willing to take it that far?
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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Spooledup
I'm willing to give up however many days of work it takes while walking a picket line to get scope. Question is, is this a pilot group that is willing to take it that far?
In 20 years when we get released to strike I'm in!
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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by echelon
In 20 years when we get released to strike I'm in!
Until then I suppose you will continue to hang out at
the Tides Tavern and pretend that your job is just like your
“buddies” jobs at the major airlines. You know the ones where
they actually negotiate contracts not enable management....
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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:22 AM
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Hey, two of us is a start!
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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Spooledup
Hey, two of us is a start!
I hope you brought 700 with you...That would be a start
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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Klsytakesit
I hope you brought 700 with you...That would be a start
Agreed!!!!
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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Klsytakesit
Until then I suppose you will continue to hang out at
the Tides Tavern and pretend that your job is just like your
“buddies” jobs at the major airlines. You know the ones where
they actually negotiate contracts not enable management....
I don't know how you got that impression but nobody's pretending, I hate this place. I spent time at two different $hitty regionals before Alaska (my third regional) and they BOTH had stronger scheduling language than the hot garbage contract at this place. I said I'd be there in 20 years to strike... That's only if fate dooms me to actually have to spend my future waiting on this God forsaken dump to turn from a job into a career. I've been here coming up on two years and am doing everything I possibly can to leave because I have absolutely no desire to be around to find out how this story ends. So settle down, they won't be getting any favors out of me in the meantime.

My point is that I hear an AWFUL lot of people who are "building a strike fund" and are "ready to walk," etc, etc without realizing how getting released to strike takes almost a literal act of congress. And if anyone thinks a bunch of pilots making more than 95%+ of other Americans are going to get any sympathy from the public to help catalyze that process, they need to wake up from their self-absorbed fantasies and think again.
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