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Name User 04-01-2019 05:29 PM

Dougie P at AA wants to dominate hub airports. I don't see how buying Alaska will give that to him especially now that Delta has moved in on your turf.

I do see Spirit buying JetBlue if the market cap gets low enough. Or vice versa but Spirit recovered so probably not anymore.

HulkaBurger 04-01-2019 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2794286)

I do see Spirit buying JetBlue

Now THAT'S funny! 🤣

PNWFlyer 04-01-2019 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by greatlake (Post 2794245)
If Delta pulled their bid for VX because they thought it wouldn't get through anti trust, why would any of the big 3 be able to buy AS?

Because that never happened.

fifidriver 04-01-2019 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by greatlake (Post 2794245)
If Delta pulled their bid for VX because they thought it wouldn't get through anti trust, why would any of the big 3 be able to buy AS?

Delta pulled the bid after running up the price. They weren't as stupid and desperate as Alaska to spend a ton of money on Alaska. I am guessing that was their plan all along, some kind of longterm master plan.

PNWFlyer 04-01-2019 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2794286)
Dougie P at AA wants to dominate hub airports. I don't see how buying Alaska will give that to him especially now that Delta has moved in on your turf..

See? This is why pilots do not run airlines. If AA bought Alaska they would dominate SEA. Delta moved in on our turf? Alaska Has every gate in the north terminal. Alaska has every gate in the D terminal with the exception of the 4 American gates. Alaska has every gate in the C terminal. Delta shares B with SWA except for the 2 Alaska has. A is where everyone else is and Delta's JV partners fly out of S.

PNWFlyer 04-01-2019 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by fifidriver (Post 2794304)
Delta pulled the bid after running up the price. They weren't as stupid and desperate as Alaska to spend a ton of money on Alaska. I am guessing that was their plan all along, some kind of longterm master plan.

Wrong again, Jet Blue ran up the price. Hainan was the 3rd bidder, but you need better than average pilot intelligence to figure that out.. Hianan being foreign needed a patterner, but they were running the show.

Name User 04-01-2019 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 2794309)
See? This is why pilots do not run airlines. If AA bought Alaska they would dominate SEA. Delta moved in on our turf? Alaska Has every gate in the north terminal. Alaska has every gate in the D terminal with the exception of the 4 American gates. Alaska has every gate in the C terminal. Delta shares B with SWA except for the 2 Alaska has. A is where everyone else is and Delta's JV partners fly out of S.

Alaska has less than half the passenger traffic at SEA, adding AA and you are only just above 50%. That's not really "dominating" a hub...

In comparison our hub in CLT has 91% of total traffic.

In ORD they are slowly cutting markets as they are sharing with UAL and can't really compete. Same with Phoenix and SWA. LAX is one of their least profitable hubs, actually if you read between the lines they are actually losing money there and in JFK they made money for the first time this past quarter, they've never made any money there since 9/11.

Fun fact about SEA, Delta actually carries more international freight there than FedEx.

fifidriver 04-01-2019 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 2794310)
Wrong again, Jet Blue ran up the price. Hainan was the 3rd bidder, but you need better than average pilot intelligence to figure that out.. Hianan being foreign needed a patterner, but they were running the show.

Yeah.... Sure. I forgot you must be better than average when it comes to intelligence. After all you are an Alaskan mainline jet pilot! 😂

Either way, they still overpaid!

greatlake 04-01-2019 07:08 PM

Wrong. Delta was Company C. "In addition, as of such date, Company C had not expressed any willingness to submit an indication of interest in connection with a potential acquisition of the Company. Company C also informed the Company that it believed regulatory approvals would be lengthy and difficult to obtain in connection with its acquisition of the Company." https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1614436/000119312516552219/d179667dprem14a.htm

Originally Posted by fifidriver (Post 2794304)
Delta pulled the bid after running up the price. They weren't as stupid and desperate as Alaska to spend a ton of money on Alaska. I am guessing that was their plan all along, some kind of longterm master plan.


full of luv 04-01-2019 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by PNWFlyer (Post 2794309)
See? This is why pilots do not run airlines. If AA bought Alaska they would dominate SEA. Delta moved in on our turf? Alaska Has every gate in the north terminal. Alaska has every gate in the D terminal with the exception of the 4 American gates. Alaska has every gate in the C terminal. Delta shares B with SWA except for the 2 Alaska has. A is where everyone else is and Delta's JV partners fly out of S.


Don't confuse owning lots of gates and running smaller RJ's / ATR's all over the local area as "owning" an airport.


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