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SWA buyout?
I’ve heard from a lot of people recently that SWA has a lot of interest in buying Alaska. Has anyone else heard this as well? Do you think this could even be a possibility? I know they really want to compete on the Hawaii routes...
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Do it, Southwest. I dare you!
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Got some AS stock you're looking to dump?
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SWA tried once before I believe. I thought I would never say this but I welcome a buy out of this dysfunctional ** show by any of the big 3 or SWA. It can't be any worse.
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Once a supermodel and now an over the hill washed up ghetto corner street biatch. Truly heart breaking.
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Originally Posted by 2loud
(Post 2471693)
SWA tried once before I believe. I thought I would never say this but I welcome a buy out of this dysfunctional *it show by any of the big 3 or SWA. It can't be any worse.
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No way. SWA is way too cheap to pull the trigger on a deal like that. Maybe once another airline is on the ropes, swa will open up the checkbook again, but an industry and investor darling like Alaska is out of SWAs league and would come at a huge price premium that they wouldn’t be willing to pay. Besides, be careful what you wish for...Southwest is a great company, but it has its warts too, some of them genital warts.
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I don't think it would ever survive any DOJ scrutiny as it would give Southwest a virtual monopoly on the West Coast.
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Originally Posted by pete2800
(Post 2471698)
Right? So let me see... I'd have to say "southwest" on the radio, but in exchange I'd get more days off, better pay, no red-eyes, and the best scope in the industry? Hmm. Tough decision.
Besides the bennies you've mentioned, we'll be able to actually trade and move around trips without ever having to entertain the thought of PBS! What a noble idea, right?
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
(Post 2471702)
No way. SWA is way too cheap to pull the trigger on a deal like that. Maybe once another airline is on the ropes, swa will open up the checkbook again, but an industry and investor darling like Alaska is out of SWAs league and would come at a huge price premium that they wouldn’t be willing to pay. Besides, be careful what you wish for...Southwest is a great company, but it has its warts too, some of them genital warts.
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2471704)
I don't think it would ever survive any DOJ scrutiny as it would give Southwest a virtual monopoly on the West Coast.
If the USAir/American thing worked for them, most things could be made to work. |
Originally Posted by Av8rRr
(Post 2471639)
I’ve heard from a lot of people recently that SWA has a lot of interest in buying Alaska. Has anyone else heard this as well? Do you think this could even be a possibility? I know they really want to compete on the Hawaii routes...
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Nevermind.
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Maybe Frank Lorenzo wants to come out and play airline again.
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
(Post 2472110)
Maybe Frank Lorenzo wants to come out and play airline again.
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Originally Posted by pete2800
(Post 2471698)
Right? So let me see... I'd have to say "southwest" on the radio, but in exchange I'd get more days off, better pay, no red-eyes, and the best scope in the industry? Hmm. Tough decision.
And you could have this!!! |
Originally Posted by pete2800
(Post 2471805)
You mean other than Delta's hubs in SEA and LAX, United's hub in SFO, and American's LAX operation? Yeah. Total monopoly.
If the USAir/American thing worked for them, most things could be made to work. |
Originally Posted by Av8rRr
(Post 2472451)
Yeah I don’t see how it wouldn’t get approved. There’s gonna be more consolidation happening, and I don’t see how Alaska is going to survive without another merger. Southwest or JetBlue seem the most logical in my opinion.
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Why would anyone want to get bought out by SWA and get Air-tranned.... no thanks
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Maybe a possibility in the past, but not with the Virgin baggage strapped to Alaska. SWA would never spend the money for that bad deal.
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Originally Posted by RadarColor
(Post 2472604)
Maybe a possibility in the past, but not with the Virgin baggage strapped to Alaska. SWA would never spend the money for that bad deal.
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It honestly wouldn't surprise me. If nothing else to prevent an Alaska-Jetblue deal.
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I think AAG leadership is more interested in cashing in than in growing a viable airline. I wonder what the exit strategy is for the guys with the golden parachutes?
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Originally Posted by Ispeakjive
(Post 2472778)
I think AAG leadership is more interested in cashing in than in growing a viable airline. I wonder what the exit strategy is for the guys with the golden parachutes?
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The so-called leadership group should have cashed out 3-4 years ago when the DAL rumors were swirling around. Instead, they stubbornly hung on to keeping the Alaska brand and pressing forward.
Many disenchanted employees and a panic purchase later, here we are. The Alaska brand is stale and tired. This management team is living in the past. They may as well sell us. Talking to other pilots, most of us don't give a rip about this brand and the operation. We would love to be sold out so that we could be rid of BT, BM, and the rest of the pilot-hating exec team. |
Originally Posted by ForeverJunior
(Post 2473075)
The so-called leadership group should have cashed out 3-4 years ago when the DAL rumors were swirling around. Instead, they stubbornly hung on to keeping the Alaska brand and pressing forward.
Many disenchanted employees and a panic purchase later, here we are. The Alaska brand is stale and tired. This management team is living in the past. They may as well sell us. Talking to other pilots, most of us don't give a rip about this brand and the operation. We would love to be sold out so that we could be rid of BT, BM, and the rest of the pilot-hating exec team. |
Originally Posted by SmoothLanderJ
(Post 2473587)
Sad, but 100% true.
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Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
(Post 2473829)
Be careful what you wish for..the AT guys basically got stapled after their "aquisition." I don't think it would be different for AS. Jmho..CG
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Originally Posted by pete2800
(Post 2473843)
If I had to pick between being stapled and seeing the continuous and permanent subcontracting of flying, I think I might pick the staple.
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But I thought Alaska was a legacy
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Originally Posted by OCCP
(Post 2473871)
But I thought Alaska was a legacy
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Instant ETOPS program.
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Originally Posted by pogey bait
(Post 2473976)
instant etops program.
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
(Post 2473976)
Instant ETOPS program.
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Originally Posted by RadarColor
(Post 2474252)
Hardly worth the cost of the VX debt.
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Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
(Post 2473829)
Be careful what you wish for..the AT guys basically got stapled after their "aquisition." I don't think it would be different for AS. Jmho..CG
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Originally Posted by Bwipilot
(Post 2474373)
You've been flagged for gross BS. The SLI wasn't even close to a staple. The AT guys lost about 3-4 years from DOH but also got a huge pay raise. Many will deny the pay increase--but if you compare the payscalses for 2009 against 2012, the truth will be revealed.
Bottom line..SWAPA and SWA mgmt held a gun to AT's head and made them an offer they couldn't refuse. Agree to an imposed SWAPA SLI..or be liquidated as part of a shell company. Don't sugarcoat it now..just own it..it is what it is. This business is ruthless. You guys were the the acquiring carrier..and you wanted access to ATL. To the victor go the spoils of war..so to speak. My only point was that AS could expect the same treatment in the event of a SWA buyout. And please keep your flags to yourself..thanks for the 717's..and have a nice day.:D |
Delta's my vote.
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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936
(Post 2474442)
Delta's my vote.
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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
(Post 2473976)
Instant ETOPS program.
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Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE
(Post 2472602)
Why would anyone want to get bought out by SWA and get Air-tranned.... no thanks
I don't think it'd be as dramatic with Alaska. First, Alaska pays better. Does someone remember what a 12 year AT FO made? It wasn't good at all. |
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