36 bucks an hour? I think you went from 189 ish to 258 today. Include 401k and vacation it was more than 36 bucks. Oh plus a CBA overnight. If you don't like Alaska leave. No one is forcing you to stay. No place is perfect, but as they say don't bite the hand that feeds you. Good luck.

 

what makes you think I would have ever voluntarily applied to this terrible airline? You're absolutely right, I am Alaska bought, 2.6 billion dollars bought me and I will proudly let everyone know where I came from... we do not like it here at alaskan, it is not a good place to be. Enjoy your little regional airline while you can, the end of Alaskan is near.

 

Respectfully, I have read through the various threads and I believe the overwhelming reason for the "friction" is the misguided belief and assertion of some AS pilots that somehow they are superior to VX pilots and we should be beyond ourselves with gratitude that AS bought us, and as a result, we get to treat you like the vanquished.

They then proceed to attack not just the airline but our pilot body en masse, not even having the facts on the true history of VX, nor knowing anything about the pilots as individuals. When they do that, of course you're gonna get push back, and some of it may be dis-respectful in equal measure. That's the nature of sensitive topics on internet forums.

I'll tell you this...On the VX side, nobody I know, myself included, think of any AS pilot as lesser (or better for that matter) , than any VX pilot. We are brothers in the profession. What we hate is the sh***y contract. And it truly is sh***y for a legacy mainline carrier.. Even AS pilots acknowledge that.

So the position of some of us is, given that there were several airlines who were interested in buying us, we believe that AS was the worst possible acquisition outcome. It's an opinion. It's not aimed at the pilots. Whether one wants to say it in an anonymous forum or publicly, it's their prerogative....

However, some (not all) AS guys take that personally and go bat sh*** crazy with their responses and only end up displaying that despite how highly they think of themselves, they really are devoid of class and decorum.

 

Agitated pilots tend to get things changed, more so as a united group. It’s been said a thousand times and it is true that AK management will not change ANYTHING unless it hurts or affects their business plan. Hopefully our united agitation can be funneled to good use. I am not very hopeful though as this interpilot group mudslinging “In my opinion” will carry way past 2020. Jeezus, the intergrated list that WE all have to live with isn’t even out yet and we are still trying to fist each other.

 

Wait a minute..... That $36 that the person posts looks like an F/O step, that which you quote looks like it would be for a Capt.... Are you saying the guy doesn't know his own pay scale?

 

I feel the pain of y'all facing a base closure. There's nothing that can be said or done to make y'all feel better. I get it. But here's the deal boys 'n girls. Y'all opted to work for a startup airline that chose domiciles in the two of the busiest and competitive airports-SFO and JFK. It was definitely not modeled after the more successful airlines like WN. Y'all mean to tell me that you didn't see the writing on the wall? Most intelligent folks I know research a company before they park themselves, especially in the airline world. Yeah yeah, I get it....you go with the airline that hires you first, furloughed and no one was hiring, you're on your fifth+ airline, yada yada yada. Not all but some (many on this forum) of y'all VXers are undesirables in this line of work for one reason or another and they seem to be the most vocal. Everyone has an opinion but from what I've seen the sharp, motivated, and marketable pilots end up at career airlines, and not some stepstone two bit operation. Instead of thumping your chests and telling the universe how great y'all are and how hip and awesome VX was (the key word here is "was" boys 'n girls), how about y'all own up to yourselves. I get a good laugh when some of y'all make your case against winning the jackpot or the huge windfall y'all got. The only case you have against the eskimo is the fact that our work rules suck. True, it's a mega regional but what does that make what was once Virgin America? Once again, better to sitting at FL350 than on a street corner.

 

I figured you'd know the only rate that is important is 12 year captain rate. It's the rate that counts.

 

Leave
Compass is hiring 41.51 an hour and a 17,500 bonus. If you are even qualified. I bet you will fit in well there.

 

I have to ask, you said “we do not like it here”. Do you speak for everyone at VX? Or maybe your wife is a VX FA? If so I could put in a word. Maybe get her a job at Compass too.

 

Zero accountability is right. I wouldn't have it any other way and here's why. The last time we had a public forum, even way before Alyeska and current "in house" forum, one of our pilots was terminated for making inappropriate comments and plenty of others got in trouble. I've been here long enough to tell you that you do not want to paint a bullseye on your back because the boogie man will get you. That, I can assure you. I guarantee you that the moderators on the current forum will delete any inappropriate posts and responses in a nano second.
If you are foolish enough to talk trash on a crew van or in any public place, may I suggest that you make sure that no one has their phones out. Labor law attorneys are pretty dang expensive these days.