Seniority Proposals
04-13-2018 | 08:37 AM
#101
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Purposefully being bitter is just a gigantic waste of life. Why not use the company for what it is, (paycheck, health insurance, retirement, travel benefits etc.) and then go home and forget it exists? Too many guys are getting wrapped around the axle about the identity of this airline. The branding, the paint on the airplanes, the advertising..... That sh!t is way above our pay grade. We just fly what they put in front of us. Going out of your way to be angry is gonna bring you to an early grave.
04-13-2018 | 10:06 AM
#102
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From: SFO Guppy CA
I'm an outsider and I gladly left AAG eight years ago and never looked back. The VX proposal is absolutely preposterous!!! It would be a huge windfall for just about every VX Pilot. There is no way that a VX Pilot with 11 yrs. of seniority should be paired with a pilot from AS that has been there 30+ years.
04-13-2018 | 10:08 AM
#103
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Let's see some figures then. CA or FO, pay step, $/hr, and state what you made at VX vs Alaska working the same number of hours. Also, if you are so unhappy at Alaska and assuming that you are even employable, why not seek employment elsewhere? Your anger will shorten your life, bro.
04-13-2018 | 10:13 AM
#104
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I'm an outsider and I gladly left AAG eight years ago and never looked back. The VX proposal is absolutely preposterous!!! It would be a huge windfall for just about every VX Pilot. There is no way that a VX Pilot with 11 yrs. of seniority should be paired with a pilot from AS that has been there 30+ years.
04-13-2018 | 10:17 AM
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04-13-2018 | 10:21 AM
#107
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I have very low expectations but even if I come out ok I’ll still cry foul just to pi$$ you off, boy. You have a lot anger towards us. Like someone said earlier, Alaska guys spend too much time mad at each other or other pilots instead of fighting for a better contract. There’s not one thing I like about Alaska but after 15 years in the industry I’m just over starting at the bottom again. I’m going to be a bitter, sour soul for the rest of my career!
04-13-2018 | 10:25 AM
#108
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True, I'd do the same if I were high on crack. It's never enough. Regardless of what some of the Virgin pilots say, they did indeed benefit immensely from this acquisition and yet they are still shooting for the moon.
04-13-2018 | 10:44 AM
#109
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As for your comment, you really don't have any credibility or the right to stand on a soap box and preach. Let's see. You flew for VX, a non-unionized pilot group except for the last few months just before the buyout, when you guys realized that you needed ALPA protection as an acquisition was on the horizon. You willingly worked for a company that undercut everyone and chose to work for subpar wages with no concrete work rules, thereby brining down the rest of the industry. If anything, you guys lowered the bar substantially than anything. You didn't even have a contract. What does that make you? A hair above a scab!
04-13-2018 | 11:04 AM
#110
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From: a cushy one with a forward facing window
Its Alaska pilots that ageed to that it was in your contract not vx's. I've been alpa for 22 years and never seen the crap that is in Alaska's contract it's horrendous for a "legacy" airline.
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