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Klsytakesit 05-23-2018 09:15 PM
Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 2600615)
There was not any mention of furloughs, mostly continued discussion of what we’ve already heard, slowed growth, deferred deliveries, no hiring, opening another airbus base was inefficient and not cost effective, but the one that got my attention the most was that JFK might not be the last base closure we see in the future.
The next one is PDX. Followed by a bay area Boeing base. Been in the works for awhile.

JKSees 05-24-2018 02:03 PM
Do you mean PDX will close and an SFO Boeing will open?

Originally Posted by Klsytakesit (Post 2601112)
The next one is PDX. Followed by a bay area Boeing base. Been in the works for awhile.

Klsytakesit 05-24-2018 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by JKSees (Post 2601690)
Do you mean PDX will close and an SFO Boeing will open?
So they say....Too close to SEA, too small a city with out much industry. Better suited to pass thru flying on Airbus/Boeing and E-175 origination flying. That was the plan anyway before the abandonment of California. We shall see.

YXnot 05-25-2018 10:06 AM
Originally Posted by 4andCounting (Post 2599504)
Both sides put in captain seat protections.
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To be accurate. The AS CA seat protections which provide for preserving the AS to VX ratio of CA's is only valid if the total number of CA's is equal to or less than the total at the implementation date. So long as the total number of CA's exceeds the total #at implementation, the AS proposal (ratio preservation)does not protect the 137 VX CA's who are pushed below the stovepipe CA line on the AS list.

Mgmt has also ceded their intent to return an airbus when the lease terminates next year while taking more Boeings.
With shifting bases and a static bus fleet the odds are the AS proposal exposes MANY VX CA's to a loss of seat with a decision favoring the AS list and "condition and restriction."

flywest 05-26-2018 05:51 AM
Originally Posted by YXnot (Post 2602165)
To be accurate. The AS CA seat protections which provide for preserving the AS to VX ratio of CA's is only valid if the total number of CA's is equal to or less than the total at the implementation date. So long as the total number of CA's exceeds the total #at implementation, the AS proposal (ratio preservation)does not protect the 137 VX CA's who are pushed below the stovepipe CA line on the AS list.

Mgmt has also ceded their intent to return an airbus when the lease terminates next year while taking more Boeings.
With shifting bases and a static bus fleet the odds are the AS proposal exposes MANY VX CA's to a loss of seat with a decision favoring the AS list and "condition and restriction."
The only thing constant is change.

Packrat 05-26-2018 06:07 AM
Originally Posted by flywest (Post 2602637)
The only thing constant is change.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Excargodog 09-27-2018 09:40 AM
So, anybody know the eventual formula for SLI?

ImperialxRat 09-27-2018 10:45 AM
Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2681898)
So, anybody know the eventual formula for SLI?

SLI award is mid October. Not too much longer and we'll all know what's what.

Barneyrubble 09-27-2018 01:46 PM
Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2681898)
So, anybody know the eventual formula for SLI?
Stupid frigging question.

Saltlife85 09-27-2018 05:18 PM
There’s e a couple people that know, but it sure as heck ain’t the line pilots on this forum.


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