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Originally Posted by python
(Post 2606434)
Yes, this only shows pilots who will be integrated. The post-merger hires will be junior to all affected pilots from all groups and will therefore have no impact on the career progression for senior affected pilots in any merged scenario.
The data model presents outcome information based on highest ranked position possible for all pilots at all times. This doesn't happen in the real world but is extremely useful for building outcome results which are determined by known variables such as list order or conditions and restrictions while controlling the unknown personal choice variables. So while pre-merger pilots could choose to bid positions normally held by post-merger pilots, that is not a reflection of maximum bidding power and won't be included in the model. In short, the results indicate the best everyone could do from each group under both proposals. Also as mentioned on the chart website, the data used to create the charts is an estimate from the submitted proposals. To be more accurate, specific inputs concerning inactives, job counts, etc. would be needed. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2606596)
Then your bands for FO R / FO B / CA R / CA B are invalid and confusing because there are already post-merger pilots on property. There should be some pilots at the bottom (FO reserve and junior FO B range) whose seniority does not change under any proposal. IIRC Anyone hired after about Apr 2017? Those people provide a bottom buffer anyone subject to the SLI.
There is further explaination on the website or feel free to PM me if you would like. Glad to have the good questions. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2606596)
Then your bands for FO R / FO B / CA R / CA B are invalid and confusing because there are already post-merger pilots on property. There should be some pilots at the bottom (FO reserve and junior FO B range) whose seniority does not change under any proposal. IIRC Anyone hired after about Apr 2017? Those people provide a bottom buffer anyone subject to the SLI.
This analysis is excellent Python. —I hope you post more of your analysis these proposed lists in your many other charting formats such as what you have here: www.rubydatasystems.com/gallery.html |
Originally Posted by IFlyEm
(Post 2606508)
Well....1000/2000 puts you in a the left seat. 300/1000 does not.
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Originally Posted by Bwipilot
(Post 2606926)
I think IFlyEm looks at seniority upside down compared to the average pilot. We read 300 as 300 from the top--IFlyEm seems to be looking as from the bottom. Tower of Babel in effect.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 2606510)
Why waste time with useless charts that are meaningless and have no impact on the final arbitrated result?
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Originally Posted by Bwipilot
(Post 2606926)
I think IFlyEm looks at seniority upside down compared to the average pilot. We read 300 as 300 from the top--IFlyEm seems to be looking as from the bottom. Tower of Babel in effect.
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Originally Posted by IFlyEm
(Post 2607086)
You guys are right. Too many redeyes. Lol
Ah, it all makes sense now. I try to understand real hard-like but since I didn’t fly fighters a lot of things go over my head. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Galaxy5
(Post 2606102)
Lol, please report to the step desk with your AF Form 69-1 Hurt Feelings Report by COB tomorrow.
Who calls it SUPT in conversation anyway? |
Not trying to stir the pot, but was the SLI completed? I was trying to follow but apparently failed.
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