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flywest 08-06-2018 06:56 AM

Beta82- Like I said, relax the "JET" is all good. There are bigger fish to fry than the term "the jet."

KnockKnock 08-06-2018 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by flywest (Post 2649808)
Beta82- Like I said, relax the "JET" is all good. There are bigger fish to fry than the term "the jet."

Beta82 is totally right on this one. It’s a turbofan, we need to start saying things like “just fly the turbofan” and “I’ve got the turbofan”. I mean, if we’re gonna care about nonsense, let’s at least be right. ;)

PasserOGas 08-06-2018 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2649724)
It isn’t just grabbing at straws. The amount of MELs we are carrying are above and beyond from what we ever carried before. WiFi and pax comfort items are being left broken, in fact I have had a few 4 day trips where 50% of the airplanes have WiFi written up, and not just the sat wifi.

I’m not saying it’s a sign of being bought, to me it’s a sign of the Bus going away, but if there is an acquisition, we will look back at this and it will be obvious that something was going on in hind sight.

Taking down a bunch of planes at once to paint in any month seems silly. Postponing all aircraft painting for what, 6 months now, has put them on an even tighter schedule to get it done (don’t forget that there is a royalty fee and deadline to get this livery off the planes). Meanwhile 737s are going down every month to get decals applied and new paint jobs. I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all, but to me it clearly indicates something. What that something is, we won’t know until we see it on the news.

At jetblue this is exactly how we have been treating the 190s. Makes you think.

Ala5ka 08-06-2018 08:32 AM

Orange lanyards should go back on. We stupidly agreed to take them off on the promise they would address certain issues that the arbitration fell short on... nothing has been addressed. Bring back orange lanyards. Seriously enough is enough, it’s time to show this clown show of a “leadership” team that their perspective emails are doing nothing but stirring the hornets nest.

It is time to stop giving them what they want for nothing in return. It should be clear that now anything we give we get something. If we don’t make these changes now when times are good (and yes a 13% profit margin is good despite what these idiots tell us) then we will be bent over, rode hard, and hung up dry when times get tough. Now is the time, us vs them.

Jetlife 08-06-2018 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Ala5ka (Post 2649889)
Orange lanyards should go back on. We stupidly agreed to take them off on the promise they would address certain issues that the arbitration fell short on... nothing has been addressed. Bring back orange lanyards. Seriously enough is enough, it’s time to show this clown show of a “leadership” team that their perspective emails are doing nothing but stirring the hornets nest.

My orange lanyard went from my neck to the outside of my roller and hasn’t moved since. I think most saw this coming. That was simply a ploy to reduce public perception of any issues. That is their real concern. They never would have addressed the Airbus fume issues had it not been made public.

Ala5ka 08-06-2018 08:43 AM

Same here, also still proudly have my orange bag tag.

Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2649891)
My orange lanyard went from my neck to the outside of my roller and hasn’t moved since. I think most saw this coming. That was simply a ploy to reduce public perception of any issues. That is their real concern. They never would have addressed the Airbus fume issues had it not been made public.


Danger Close 08-06-2018 09:22 AM

[QUOTE=Beta82;2649546]

Originally Posted by flywest (Post 2649472)

Maybe it's time for a change? You can see why one might think that calling your airplane ”the jet” might be a little ostentatious. Definitely not necessary in 2018. Maybe we can work towards getting rid of that saying along with the crappy contract in 2019/2020/2021/ yougetthepoint. :thumbsup:

As long as you haven't reffered to the TL's as "throttles" in recent times your glass holds water.

Klsytakesit 08-06-2018 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ala5ka (Post 2649889)
Orange lanyards should go back on. We stupidly agreed to take them off on the promise they would address certain issues that the arbitration fell short on... nothing has been addressed. Bring back orange lanyards. Seriously enough is enough, it’s time to show this clown show of a “leadership” team that their perspective emails are doing nothing but stirring the hornets nest.

It is time to stop giving them what they want for nothing in return. It should be clear that now anything we give we get something. If we don’t make these changes now when times are good (and yes a 13% profit margin is good despite what these idiots tell us) then we will be bent over, rode hard, and hung up dry when times get tough. Now is the time, us vs them.

Did we ever take them off. No wonder the SEA hatpolice glare at me when I pass through. Of course it is time for those of you that took them off to put them back on.
And for the rest of you that didnt bother the first time, dont worry, we got this!

Baradium 08-06-2018 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2649804)
That’s exactly my point though. UAL was eyeing JB but would have previously had to divest too much to make it work. Imagine if they had a no restrictions green light to acquire JB because our administration is allowing it

JetBlue's scope is a poison pill for most acquisition concerns. While they may be able to buy their way out of it, it makes a potential acquisition a lot more expensive and potentially a lot more difficult for management if UAL pilots (who care much more about scope than AS pilots seem to) decide to use to opportunity to go for a return of scope on their end.

While it doesn't completely rule it out, it does make it much less likely.

Jetlife 08-06-2018 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2649947)
JetBlue's scope is a poison pill for most acquisition concerns. While they may be able to buy their way out of it, it makes a potential acquisition a lot more expensive and potentially a lot more difficult for management if UAL pilots (who care much more about scope than AS pilots seem to) decide to use to opportunity to go for a return of scope on their end.

While it doesn't completely rule it out, it does make it much less likely.

I doubt it, if scope isn't violated and both parties vote it in, it shouldn't cost them anything... UAL could dump the 190s and take the Airbus only, done deal.


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