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JB wouldn’t have to give up anything. The 190 is already on the UAL payscale so if they wanted 100 seat flying on mainline they could do it, if not, dump them and you gain an Airbus fleet and lots of pilots.
It’s 2018, B scales are not coming back and UAL isn’t gonna try and pull anything funny if they were to acquire JB, they know they couldn’t get away with it. I really think the scope thing is a non issue. |
Originally Posted by seekingblue
(Post 2650490)
If United were to buy us, we would be an even more divided pilot group. The bottom 1/2 of the list would be overjoyed that they can upgrade and fly heavy metal. The top 1/2 would be ****ed that they are going to get shafted on seniority integration. Sort of a win/lose depending on seniority
UAL + jetBlue would be be a killer, but only if the mandated divestitures wouldn't negate the advantages. |
Originally Posted by Flytolive
(Post 2650517)
UAL + jetBlue would be be a killer, but only if the mandated divestitures wouldn't negate the advantages. JB can’t afford AS and egos can’t grt pushed aside to decide what the actual airline would be. I wouldn’t give a JB and AS merger much thought at all. I see UAL buying JB and I see AS getting bought by AAL or SWA, IF IF IF more acquisitions were to happen. |
"If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride."
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Originally Posted by Jetlife
(Post 2650527)
I think in the past, this is what prevented UAL from making a move. There have been lots of rumors that UAL was eying JB and it could have all been complete crap, but I tell you what, it makes a whole lot of sense if UAL wants to expand and capture market share, at the same time as squashing JBs European hopes.
JB can’t afford AS and egos can’t grt pushed aside to decide what the actual airline would be. I wouldn’t give a JB and AS merger much thought at all. I see UAL buying JB and I see AS getting bought by AAL or SWA, IF IF IF more acquisitions were to happen. Which is my carzy theory of why we have not gone with the 321lr to Europe. It’s so easy given our Bos and JFK hubs and yet they can’t make up their mind on an aircraft we already fly. |
Originally Posted by Clear Right
(Post 2650256)
No way a B6 pilot would give up seniority for UAL $264/hr A320 vs B6 $259/hr A320, unless I’m missing something on pay rates? Why would you give up seniority for $5 an hour?
Also that $264 currently at United is close to being our “old payrates” since we are in Section 6 negotiations right now. Would not be surprised to see $300/hour Airbus Captains in the new contract. |
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2650746)
Which is my carzy theory of why we have not gone with the 321lr to Europe. It’s so easy given our Bos and JFK hubs and yet they can’t make up their mind on an aircraft we already fly.
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
(Post 2650784)
Except the top payrate at United is $338/hour (777,787,767-400). Not to mention 757-300 and 767-300 pay $282/hour. And the junior pilot flying a 787 is about 3,000 on the UAL list and the junior 756 Captain about 8,000.
Also that $264 currently at United is close to being our “old payrates” since we are in Section 6 negotiations right now. Would not be surprised to see $300/hour Airbus Captains in the new contract. |
Originally Posted by O2pilot
(Post 2650788)
You guys just gave up the ability to fly that and let codeshare partners do it. I foresee more JB codeshare partners doing your flying, just like HA 321s are doing your flying now. It’ll just get worse.
Originally Posted by O2pilot
(Post 2614768)
If we acquired either of those train-wrecks of an airline, we’d certainly offer their pilots preferential interviews I’d think.
Anyway the good part is you and I will have no say. We are both ALPA carriers and both working under a CBA, so I’m not worried. |
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
(Post 2650857)
Because you don’t codeshare right? How about all those domestic flights that are not flown by mainline United. I would debate you but sine this is a quote from you I will spend my time praying for a preferential interview.
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