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OCCP 08-15-2018 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Saltlife85 (Post 2655669)
We also have FO’s leaving to Envoy Air for direct captain spots.



But BM said this merger is about growth! What a joke of a company

ShyGuy 08-15-2018 10:29 AM

If you’re a FO in your 20s or 30s, you’d be a fool to stay here. With the exception of PDX (and even that may be on the chopping block), all other AS bases are available at the big 3 pax and big 2 cargo. The big 3 retirement numbers alone justify the jump. I don’t know why young FOs would stay here.

rickair7777 08-15-2018 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by OCCP (Post 2655670)
But BM said this merger is about growth! What a joke of a company

I think it was about growth... specifically growth at B6.

EskimoJoe 08-15-2018 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Saltlife85 (Post 2655669)
We also have FO’s leaving to Envoy Air for direct captain spots.

Good. I don’t want to fly with any F.O’s that fking stupid. Adios!

ShyGuy 08-15-2018 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by EskimoJoe (Post 2655770)
Good. I don’t want to fly with any F.O’s that fking stupid. Adios!

Depends on your definition of stupid. The one guy I know has been here less than 2 yrs and has no TPIC. If he wants the big 3, staying here isn’t going to cut it. Looks like he’s trying to pursue the TPIC time, and an added bonus is a flow up to AA in 5 yrs in case the big 3 don’t call him until then. What is guaranteed by staying here, he’ll be a FO for a long time and not adding anything to his resume other than worthless SIC time. (Worthless from a resume perspective for the big 3). Also from what I hear it isn’t just one guy leaving to do this, there’s at least two.


Instead of being so dismissive, why don’t you step back and look at why multiple people are leaving Alaska for a regional.

IFlyEm 08-15-2018 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2655782)
Also from what I hear it isn’t just one guy leaving to do this, there’s at least two.

A whole 2 people? :-o

Just messin...

It's EXTREMELY hard to justify leaving a top 5 carrier to go to a regional. Especially with all the speculation over what could happen in the next year or two. Everyone needs to do what they feel is right for them. But leaving here to go to a regional is worse than bypassing upgrade at a regional.

rickair7777 08-15-2018 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2655782)
Instead of being so dismissive, why don’t you step back and look at why multiple people are leaving Alaska for a regional.

Well, really they're leaving AS for AA. They're just accepting a paycut, some flow risk, and a delay in the process. Risky, but there's a potential payoff if you're young enough to get to WB CA and spend some time there. Calculated risk vs. gain, but not necessarily stupid.

plt32173 08-15-2018 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by IFlyEm (Post 2655917)
A whole 2 people? :-o

Just messin...

It's EXTREMELY hard to justify leaving a top 5 carrier to go to a regional. Especially with all the speculation over what could happen in the next year or two. Everyone needs to do what they feel is right for them. But leaving here to go to a regional is worse than bypassing upgrade at a regional.

Top 5!? We are close to #7. And this POS scheduling section 25 is worse then any regionals. Nobody should be proud to be a part of this airline.

IFlyEm 08-16-2018 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by plt32173 (Post 2656037)
Top 5!? We are close to #7. And this POS scheduling section 25 is worse then any regionals. Nobody should be proud to be a part of this airline.

I don't disagree. But if you are going to leave aim higher than Envoy or any other regional for that matter.

OTZeagle1 08-16-2018 09:36 AM

This rhetoric is embarrassing! No wonder our management thinks we are a bunch of spoiled babies. You all whine and whine like children. I am a multimillionaire in large part do to this bottom feeder airline. Are you all this far out of touch?


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