Originally Posted by Pogey Bait

Academy grad? Those are the ones that queue my interest every time. Don’t know what the hell that place does to individuals but it sure fabricates some strange creatures in the 121 world.

Originally Posted by ForeverJunior

Well, the SLI is behind us. It's water under the bridge. How is this pilot group now going to become unified to get the contract we want?

Section 25 needs to be rewritten and we NEED to get scope. Most pilots tend to gravitate towards pay rates, but those are no good if we're spending more time at work and have ZERO job security.

We all need to do our part to educate those among us who are apathetic and drink the company Kool-Aid. Yes, they still walk among us. These same folks are the ones who usually blame the "union".

The rank and file pilots are the union. We elect reps to get things done for US. It's that simple. The rank and file pilots need to be active and involved. Attend meetings and/or communicate what you want to your reps. Read the comms from the negotiating committee, LEC, & MEC. If you're not getting the comms via E-Mail, get a hold of someone.

Somehow the expectation is there for the MEC leadership to tell the pilot group what to do. IT DOESN'T work that way and JW's E-Mail from when he became MEC chair even said as much.

Time for all of us to wake up and do what it takes to get the contract we deserve.

Do your job and allow other to do theirs. Fly the contract.

Rant over...

Originally Posted by O2pilot

This is what I predict. AS management won’t negotiate a contract. They’ll wait until the existing contract has expired 3-4 years and take advantage of the cost savings that other airlines that gave pay and work rules improvements to other airlines don’t have. Then they’ll just let the NMB arbitrate and basically you’ll have this some contract again with everyone claiming that they’ll “get them next time”.

Originally Posted by flyinpigg

I don’t mean to be rude, but you don’t know how this works do you?

Originally Posted by O2pilot

This is what I predict. AS management won’t negotiate a contract. They’ll wait until the existing contract has expired 3-4 years and take advantage of the cost savings that other airlines that gave pay and work rules improvements to other airlines don’t have. Then they’ll just let the NMB arbitrate and basically you’ll have this some contract again with everyone claiming that they’ll “get them next time”.

Originally Posted by lowflying

I predict that the pilots will keep on picking up open time, flying fatigued, overlooking maintenance discrepancies etc... during the whole process. All the while claiming that their union is weak and wasting their dues or that “their union speaks for them.”