Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2879602)

Off course upgrade time matters, but the people upgrading now were hired over a decade ago. Using that number to make a prognosis about upgrade time for future hires is not an exact science. Our upgrade in DTW went from 10 to 2 years in one class because of no hiring for 4 years and all DTW FOs were where they wanted to be. If you want to make a (more?) educated guess you need to look at standing bids, forecast retirements and forecast growth (and hope and pray nothing else changes in the next decade). Conservative option: pick a company (and hope it picks you back) where you want to work, unless the upgrade is below 3 years, results from the past don't matter.

Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 2879651)

I think we're saying the same thing. It has stayed sub 5 for the last yr and has been inching closer to 4 for a while. Even before integration. We've hired more this year, (and are told we're hiring the same next year), than we've ever hired before. We just had the largest upgrade bid in our history. Prior to that, the previous 4 years saw unprecedented hiring with 200-250 a yr. (Minus 1 yr of only 150ish). So we're "trending" towards shorter upgrade times and more hiring. This is not purely based on the minimal attrition we've had. If the same factors are in play for the foreseeable future. I can't see the percentage of bypasses changing keeping upgrades around 4, maybe sub 4 yrs.

Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2879884)

I would choose Jet Blue over Alaskan because they have cooler uniforms.

Originally Posted by EMBskillz (Post 2880824)

If I were to guess, as soon as brown shoes are part of the uniform, then many people will make the jump to Alaskan. I know i will.

Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 2880891)

Not sure what’s worse. Brown shoes or blue shirts? At least the brown shoes are optional....

Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 2881071)

Brown shoes being an option makes it even worse... a uniform is supposed to be...well, uniform. Women can wear brown, navy blue, or black shoes, and men can wear black or brown... that with our different jacket options will make us all look quite different. Just a guess on my part.. will be funny if people wear black shoes and the brown jacket too, and just general mismatching the uniform and colors :)

Originally Posted by KnockKnock (Post 2880891)

Not sure what’s worse. Brown shoes or blue shirts? At least the brown shoes are optional....