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Old 07-28-2019, 02:35 PM   #1  
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R the numbers on this APC accurate?
Also, if I get a base other than my first choice, can I bid for that base before they give it out to a new hire?
It appears they are hiring for LAX/SFO but primarily for SFO. I want LAX, so if I get SFO in new hire class, what are my options. Can I bid before the next class, That is if the they offer LAX to the class after mine. Just curious about options.

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Old 07-28-2019, 04:27 PM   #2  
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These have some lax bases also
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If awarded SFO you wouldnít be able to get LAX until a bid comes out and you can transfer there. Bids come out every 3-6 months.
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Old 07-29-2019, 05:37 AM   #4  
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In addition to the few yearly bids also consider the move dates after the bids are often 3-6 months so it can be a while.

You will be stuck in your base position until a bid award even if a class after you is awarded the domicile you desire.
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R the numbers on this APC accurate?
I'm guessing not. Some of that profile info is old and probably does not include retirements for former virgina america pilots.
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When I did the combined retirement math for the 10 yr timeframe from 2018-2027 it was ~620. And the next 10 yr frame from 2028-2037 was ~850. Today we have a little over 3,000 total pilots.

No matter which way you skin the cat, the reality is you will not have quick movement here. That being said, upgrade to CA here doesnít mean you have to be half way up the list. Reserve rules here are horrendous so the most junior upgrade went to a 2,9xx guy out of 3,000 total (hired Jan 2015). If youíre hired today itís still gonna be a while.
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When I did the combined retirement math for the 10 yr timeframe from 2018-2027 it was ~620. And the next 10 yr frame from 2028-2037 was ~850. Today we have a little over 3,000 total pilots.

No matter which way you skin the cat, the reality is you will not have quick movement here. That being said, upgrade to CA here doesnít mean you have to be half way up the list. Reserve rules here are horrendous so the most junior upgrade went to a 2,9xx guy out of 3,000 total (hired Jan 2015). If youíre hired today itís still gonna be a while.
Close...19xx seniority. A new hire today is 1000 away from the plug. If we hire for just retirements it could be 10 years plus until you too can enjoy the crappiest reserve rules in the industry
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Oops fat fingered it. Yes, 19xx. And agreed that itíll be a while. Looking at retirements for movement is something really only for the big 3 carriers. At Southwest, Alaska, JetBlue, Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Hawaiian, retirement numbers are small compared to the big 3.
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Can you please explain the reserve rules?
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Can you please explain the reserve rules?
They reserve the right to basically do anything to you and you reserve the right to b**ch about it. 😏
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