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Old 08-10-2019, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by lowflying View Post
Hopefully, management is in for a big surprise when morale goes into the toilet...
Guess what? Angle Lake doesn't shiv a git.
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Old 08-10-2019, 08:58 AM
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Guess what? Angle Lake doesn't shiv a git.
Yep.... they’ve already made that clear. But.... one day..... they just might. 😉
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:12 AM
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Brad killed the HIMS program because of control. If a pilot were to have drug or alcohol problems, and get Alaska Airlines on the 5 O'clock news, he wants to be able to fire the pilot on the spot and remove the problem immediately for damage control. Image control above all else.
If the pilots put on a orange lanyard over the Thanksgiving and Christmas flying season, they absolutely freak. Ben charges his base chiefs to actually go wonder the halls of the terminals, looking for orange. I was actually standing next to one of these base chief's, while wearing my orange lanyard. We were simply chatting about upcoming Christmas and life in general. This base chief did not give two hoots or care one little bit about my lanyard. He never said a word about it. He then gets a text and chuckles. He shows me the text and I see that it's Ben asking for an update on how much orange was out there. This was around 0700 on a Friday and the most important thing on Ben's mind was how many orange lanyards were in the terminal. Image above all else.
The only things these guys care about is image and the metal moving (preferably on time). If the metal stops moving, they pay attention in a hurry. If the image is in any way tarnished, they move like their hair is on fire.
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mudhen200 View Post
Brad killed the HIMS program because of control. If a pilot were to have drug or alcohol problems, and get Alaska Airlines on the 5 O'clock news, he wants to be able to fire the pilot on the spot and remove the problem immediately for damage control. Image control above all else.
If the pilots put on a orange lanyard over the Thanksgiving and Christmas flying season, they absolutely freak. Ben charges his base chiefs to actually go wonder the halls of the terminals, looking for orange. I was actually standing next to one of these base chief's, while wearing my orange lanyard. We were simply chatting about upcoming Christmas and life in general. This base chief did not give two hoots or care one little bit about my lanyard. He never said a word about it. He then gets a text and chuckles. He shows me the text and I see that it's Ben asking for an update on how much orange was out there. This was around 0700 on a Friday and the most important thing on Ben's mind was how many orange lanyards were in the terminal. Image above all else.
The only things these guys care about is image and the metal moving (preferably on time). If the metal stops moving, they pay attention in a hurry. If the image is in any way tarnished, they move like their hair is on fire.
100%.... spot. On
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:53 AM
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Someone remind me why we took them off in the first place and why we aren't currently wearing them again? Hard to believe such a petty gesture offends them so much but as long as it does, we might as well be doing it seeing as how we got absolutely nothing in return for taking them off.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:30 PM
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I get it, I would like to have the uniforms approved and get rid of the disgusting crew meals so we can get on with the important issues.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:49 PM
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I get it, I would like to have the uniforms approved and get rid of the disgusting crew meals so we can get on with the important issues.
This isn’t REALLY about uniforms.... or HIMS for that matter.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:27 PM
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This isn’t REALLY about uniforms.... or HIMS for that matter.
I think its obvious av8or, that poster is either management or friendly with them.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:41 PM
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Or trolling? My god you guys make it easy for him
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudhen200 View Post
Brad killed the HIMS program because of control. If a pilot were to have drug or alcohol problems, and get Alaska Airlines on the 5 O'clock news, he wants to be able to fire the pilot on the spot and remove the problem immediately for damage control. Image control above all else.
If the pilots put on a orange lanyard over the Thanksgiving and Christmas flying season, they absolutely freak. Ben charges his base chiefs to actually go wonder the halls of the terminals, looking for orange. I was actually standing next to one of these base chief's, while wearing my orange lanyard. We were simply chatting about upcoming Christmas and life in general. This base chief did not give two hoots or care one little bit about my lanyard. He never said a word about it. He then gets a text and chuckles. He shows me the text and I see that it's Ben asking for an update on how much orange was out there. This was around 0700 on a Friday and the most important thing on Ben's mind was how many orange lanyards were in the terminal. Image above all else.
The only things these guys care about is image and the metal moving (preferably on time). If the metal stops moving, they pay attention in a hurry. If the image is in any way tarnished, they move like their hair is on fire.
This is why we need to bring them back. The pilot group is mostly a bunch of zombies walking around completely oblivious to the politics of ALPA and company.

They'll wear orange if their buddies tell them to but it'll be Brad and Ben's heavy handed response that will wake these guys up and get them angry and involved.
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