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Old 12-31-2019, 10:49 AM
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A 2% planned annual growth, a fairly modest fleet plan (except for Horizon 170s), not a lot of retirements, and no scope makes me think Alaska upgrades might be sort of slow compared to other airlines.
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A 2% planned annual growth, a fairly modest fleet plan (except for Horizon 170s), not a lot of retirements, and no scope makes me think Alaska upgrades might be sort of slow compared to other airlines.


Everyone is going to tell you it’s under 5. For LAX. There’s no way to project it for the future. It’s remarkably low at the moment due to past hiring practices but it will increase drastically as AG sells off Airbus product and like you says adds more regional aircraft.

There is talk of a fleet plan and new mainline aircraft but I don’t believe any of it. Not until I’m sitting in the seat and the check clears.


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nobody comes to Alaska because of the growth plan....thats for sure. Especially given the fact that most of the attrition is coming from Jr FOs going to the big 3. We're pretty much an 87 year old type rating factory at the moment.
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nobody comes to Alaska because of the growth plan....thats for sure. Especially given the fact that most of the attrition is coming from Jr FOs going to the big 3. We're pretty much an 87 year old type rating factory at the moment.
I keep hearing this. The attrition list to be published in Feb will show the real story. A majority of the FO attrition in the Aug list were guys with retirements in 2050-2058! Of course guys in their 20s will leave for the big 3. That’s a no brainer. They’ll make up the < 3 yr longevity loss at AS with the fact they have 35+ yrs at one of the big 3.
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Swag:

Those recently hired and new hires:

8 year SEA
10 year PDX
11 year ANC
6 year SFO
6 year LAX
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Attrition is a yawn! Give me a break... the same loud mantra and management laughs in our face.
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Attrition is a yawn! Give me a break... the same loud mantra and management laughs in our face.


It’s about as exciting as our retirement numbers


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I wasn’t asking if management was concerned. I’m sure they’ve budgeted for a certain loss amount. I was asking if the numbers you’re throwing out included attrition or not.




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Originally Posted by Mea25000 View Post
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Those recently hired and new hires:

8 year SEA
10 year PDX
11 year ANC
6 year SFO
6 year LAX
What are these numbers? Are these upgrade times per base?
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Default Jan 2020 Base Position Lists

Jan 2020 Base Position Lists.
DOH for junior Captain. (month / year)

ANC = 08/2014
SEA = 05/2014
PDX = 12/2012
SFO = 07/2013
LAX (737) = 01/2015
LAX (Bus) 05/2012
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