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Originally Posted by cactipilot (Post 3089472)

I saw this the other day and thought this is one of the most daring and probably unsetting moves in the industry after the good ol' pandemic has affected every airline so much. Kinda like ****in' in the punch bowl it seems.... How do you think Alaska responds? Compete or Retreat? It seems they're basically doing exactly what Alaska purchased Virgin America to avoid.... going into all of their markets short of Hawaii.... (so far)...What do the experienced AS guys think is gonna change as a result?
https://www.latimes.com/business/sto...g-beach-to-lax

I think it was more about LGB being an awful partner for JetBlue than JetBlue wanting to stir things up in LAX.

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Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 3089942)

I think it was more about LGB being an awful partner for JetBlue than JetBlue wanting to stir things up in LAX.

This x 1000

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Originally Posted by nuball5 (Post 3089942)

I think it was more about LGB being an awful partner for JetBlue than JetBlue wanting to stir things up in LAX.

After living a short time in Long beach, couldn't agree more. It didn't take long to figure out that the residents had it out for the airport. Rules were pushed through that would have made that airport a terrible place to be a focus airport for ANY airline.

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Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3089834)

JetBlue in LAX does not affect Alaska Airlines
at all. We dont haul their passenger demographic. LAX eastbound is not now and never has been an important part of Alaska’s playbook. We haul mostly leisure travelers that can’t quite stomach the Spirit/Frontier Zoo and who consider assigned seating important. The wind-down from the Virgin America flying out of LAX is just about complete. As the Airbus is removed from LAX the pilot base will get smaller as they have no plans to replace those airframes...So again: Not at all

I agree with this. JB really just wants transcon expansion and has little to no appetite for short haul west coast, which is AS's strong suit. I could see closer cooperation with JB/AS and a formal codeshare, maybe join the existing AA/AS codeshare. Yes, JB will fly a few flights to HNL someday, but thats not going to be a huge hit against AS or HA.

The future theme of the US airline industry will be cooperation, particularly in competitive markets like LAX. Domestic codeshares/joint venture agreements will be a more common way for carriers to gain exposure in tough markets.

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Originally Posted by SkyKing466 (Post 3089827)

So are we once we figure out how to get some drop tanks on the E175

No need, e175-e2 can do coast to coast. QX has options for 30 more that can easily be converted to the e2 version. Or just get E195s.

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This ostrich definitely agrees that B6 will have no effect on AS in LAX

Because the ostrich knows that LAX is not a big part of Alaska Airlines plans....Wise ostrich

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Originally Posted by 9mikemike (Post 3091639)

Because the ostrich knows that LAX is not a big part of Alaska Airlines plans....Wise ostrich

Alaska Airlines has a plan?

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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 3091692)

Alaska Airlines has a plan?

hahaha this👆

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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76 (Post 3091692)

Alaska Airlines has a plan?

Does any airline have a plan? There are so many variables and unknowns, it's impossible to know what the economy and travel environment will look like next summer. You can make guesses, but you can't make an educated guess. Will there be a vaccine? If there is a vaccine will it be effective and available? Will the mortality rate rise or fall as the numbers of known cases of covid 19 explode in the United States? Will the Europeans allow US citizens into there countries? Will the virus mutate? What percentage of people will avoid flying until there's a vaccine? How many more bailouts will the tax payers allow?

Nobody knows the answers to those questions. The only rational actions an airline can take right now are controlling costs, preserving cash reserves, and remaining flexible.