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NewGuy01 07-15-2020 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by LonesomeSky (Post 3092076)
Does any airline have a plan? There are so many variables and unknowns, it's impossible to know what the economy and travel environment will look like next summer. You can make guesses, but you can't make an educated guess. Will there be a vaccine? If there is a vaccine will it be effective and available? Will the mortality rate rise or fall as the numbers of known cases of covid 19 explode in the United States? Will the Europeans allow US citizens into there countries? Will the virus mutate? What percentage of people will avoid flying until there's a vaccine? How many more bailouts will the tax payers allow?

Nobody knows the answers to those questions. The only rational actions an airline can take right now are controlling costs, preserving cash reserves, and remaining flexible.

So like, a dynamic situation?

Back2future 07-15-2020 11:57 AM

What's that famous quote? I think I saw it on matching plaques in both of B&B's office: "the time to sell is when there's blood in the streets." I say we just retreat back to our safe space in Seattle.

arroyorunner 07-15-2020 12:58 PM

From what I've read I think the argument can be said that it is better to be Alaska in LA than JetBlue in LA.

https://crankyflier.com/2020/07/13/j...-worse-at-lax/

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Clear Right 07-15-2020 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by arroyorunner (Post 3092482)
From what I've read I think the argument can be said that it is better to be Alaska in LA than JetBlue in LA.

https://crankyflier.com/2020/07/13/j...-worse-at-lax/

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Humble uneducated guess is JetBlue is taking advantage of the gate situation for the long game. They probably don't care about the short haul flying, maybe some point to point stuff near term, but it's low yield anyway to satisfy the short term flying, keep LGB employees in the game. MINT will off course expand for the transcon market, and the A220 will of course offer some new LAX opportunities. But how about a wild guess on what you would do with your extra A321LR/XLR during the Winter months when Europe and London flying are low demand. How about Central, South and deep South America (XLR), and maybe an occasional Hawaii?? Just a guess though.

Snuffaluffagus 07-16-2020 08:29 AM

Alaska is clapping back

https://investor.alaskaair.com/news-...tions-2020-lax

LAX-RSW/TPA/LIH/KOA/BZN/MFR/EUG, PDX-FLL, SAN-FLL, and SEA-RSW.

NewGuy01 07-16-2020 08:57 AM

Looks like the 3:1 ratio on SkyWest and QX flying compared to mainline continues.... I'm not super thrilled about that. At least out of the 12 new routes, 4 were on mainline. I guess we are lucky the 175 can't reach Hawaii. Or Tampa from LAX.

9mikemike 07-16-2020 06:56 PM

New city pairs but certainly not new flying...Some other city pairs will go away or never come back. For Alaska Airlines mainline that is...

rickair7777 07-17-2020 06:40 AM

https://blog.sesamehub.com/fraker-sa...l_72448419.jpg

Excargodog 07-17-2020 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3093690)


Day late.
Dollar short.

Going back only about a year and reading the comments about negotiating for scope does make interesting reading though.


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